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[–] Yogus 1 points 24 points (+25|-1) ago 

You can have a terrible diet. If you aren't fat, I probably won't hate you.

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[–] Jimbonez_Jonez [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

That's a perfect sentiment.

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[–] Sanguinelady 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If you have a piss poor diet I will probably hate you, even if you are thin. Just a bit less than a fatty.

In many of the various things I have dealt with in my life, one of the more frustrating things was "friends" who...lost so much potential as to who they can be, and what they can accomplish because they refuse to properly fuel their bodies. There were not fatties. These were people who were usually at least 19 to 20 BMI, low body fat, all that jizz.

The thing is they were just refused to address feeding themselves properly. They had the tools, the place, the time, and the money. Instead they'd rather go the day surviving on the bare minimum of calories on non nutritious "food items". They on a regular basis day in and day out starved their bodies of actual nutrients. However, because they rarely ate more than they burned they never got fat. The end result of this is that their moods were usually pretty unstable, and they were often felt ill. It's something I've noticed with most cases I dealt with more personally. The lack of feeling well usually meant a lackluster productivity most days. It also meant they often ditched social outings, or when they did go they were in such fowl moods. If I could convince them to start properly FUCKING EATING they became completely different people. Happier, better moods (and more consistent), better productivity, etc, etc. Also they got sick less often.

Being thin but having a poor diet is only a little bit better than being fat with a poor diet. Your body is your temple, treat it right. I get this is fat people hate but we ought to not encourage too much the "Oh since I'm not fat I can eat garbage all the time tee hee".

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[–] veganesthie 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

All that jizz....

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[–] Yogus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's fair- I am the health nut type and I shame skinny people to eat better all the time, but not on FPH. Maintaining caloric balance is not debatable, but other parts of healthy eating are subtle and sometimes divisive- while this makes for interesting discussion it's not really about making fun of lards.

In other words, healthy diets are useful to become thin, stay thin, and not die. On FPH, would it be fair to say the "not die" part is less relevant?

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[–] ButterBeater9000 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Eh, you'll probably fall into the normal weight obesity category at that point and I'll still dislike you.

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[–] Jimbonez_Jonez [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What is the normal weight obesity category?

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[–] CthulhuDelay 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I eat whatever I feel like. But - repeat after me, fatties - In moderation. In moderation. In moderation. Chant this to yourself for as long as it takes to pierce the subcutaneous fat surrounding your thick fucking skull.

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[–] Jimbonez_Jonez [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Same. I usually eat exactly what I want. What I want, though, is usually good for me and if it a bad thing I'm eating, then I usually don't have a million of them. Or if I do have a million of them, which I have done plenty of times, then I just know that I have used up my caloric intake for the day and too bad for me if I get hungry later.

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[–] miqotes 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I adopted the "its a lifestyle" way of saying it. Which it is. Actually caring about how many calories you consume is apart of your lifestyle. Why fats ignore something so simple such as basic math (adding and subtracting throughout the day) is just simply stupid.

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[–] bunnee 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

And you don't even need to count exact calories as long as you keep a mental image of what you're eating thru the day. And if you're gaining weight? Well, I'll stop having three glasses of OJ a day or whatever. It's really simple. Fats always go on these 1000kcal a day crash dietss that always fail without understanding that the difference of losing or gaining is as little as 100-300kcal a day. That's a single chocolate bar or the syrup in your coffee.

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[–] Jimbonez_Jonez [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's the fat on the brain. It dilutes rational thinking.

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[–] ChicagoSunroof 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I disagree. I don't care what you do or what you call it: don't eat more calories than you burn.

The problem with statements like "Don't be on a diet, have a good diet" is that fatty-fats will think they can "eat clean" and then eat anything they want. Truth is, you can eat a lot of junk and not be fat if you carefully count your calories.

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[–] Jimbonez_Jonez [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'd count that diet as good enough. I know it's completely subjective and probably any dietician would disagree, but as far as our standards go, if all you eat is chocolate cake and you can stay not fat, good for you. We'll accept you with an open embrace and tell you how great you are.

I agree with your thought on the saying though. You cannot sit and eat vitamin rich food all day. Taking in 12000 calories on carrots isn't all that different than 12000 calories of spaghetti or 12000 calories of spam as far as fat is concerned. I would hope that under no circumstances people would think eating anything for 12000 calories is a good thing, but fats are too obtuse (tee-hee) to get that concept. Maybe I'll try and shift that saying a bit.

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[–] DrFingers 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

that's like 65 lbs of carrots.

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[–] ButterBeater9000 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

What if I'm actually bulking?

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[–] PiggerTrigger 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Then you either stop before you become a fat, which means your diet is just fine, or you become a fat, which means it's not.

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[–] BarrelchestBuffpunch 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

this is why in finnish we have separate words for "formal" dieting and a person's everyday diet

nobody is confused

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[–] syntaxaxe 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yes, but they generally don't care about healthy lifestyles. It's mainly people who just feed their addictions most of the time, then realizing, "I wanna get laid / get in to a bikini by summer" who fuel the diet industry. If it doesn't promise (whether obviously false or not) short term desire fulfilment, they aren't interested.

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[–] Jimbonez_Jonez [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

People don't change, their diets do. A fat may start eating better and lose weight but they'll almost always go back, such as Robert 'Gibbs-Me-Another-Piece-Of-Cake'.

Just another case of people being weak and not being able to control themselves.

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[–] Appleseed12333 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Simple and easy rule to live by, sad so many don't.

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[–] ButterBeater9000 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I. Fucking. Love. Beef. All kinds of beef. I'll eat beef literally every day for every meal if possible.

However, I've made a conscious choice to go partially vegetarian because I know how much damage the beef industry does to the environment. I went from eating five pounds of beef a week to one pound every other week.

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[–] trashpandaparty 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I'm the same. Love, love, love me a big fat striploin. But between the environmental impact and the cost of fresh meat (even in shitty qualities) where I live, and a dairy intolerance, I make a lot of vegan recipes now. I treat myself to the odd steak and buy fish if it's good and on sale, but aside from eggs, tuna and small amounts of chicken thigh (great to make stock with and then have a little meat), I've cut my grocery bill by a ton and hopefully done a little for the planet. Hopefully enough to make up for my love of avacados that I know is probably killing the water table.

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[–] FatWombat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I am. Make sense. Don't be a dick. Not very relevant to tubbies though.

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[–] bunnee 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Vegetarian for 8 years, vegan for 6 months and counting :)

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[–] condishunal_love 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Eat whatever foods you want. I love bacon, cheese, and jello too much. Question though. In countries where animals are still use to plow the land is anything vegan? Animals were exploited for the grain they grow. And is horseback riding vegan? Or dog shows? There's quite a bit of cruelty and irresponsible breeding going on in those fields that harms animals. Or what about buying anything from overseas with all the aquatic animals that that harmed or killed by collisions with cargo ships? Is your Nintendo vegan?

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