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[–] frenemy 1 points 31 points (+32|-1) ago 

that's so wrong. we lock up anorexics to keep them from hurting them selves, why not fattys again? i'm rather convinced it's a mental disorder in it's own right.

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[–] bob3333 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Of course it's a disorder. How can not recognizing that you're too thin be a disorder while not recognizing that you're too wide is not?

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[–] frenemy 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

every downvote i get in fph is a mark of pride.

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[–] Datawych 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Because anorexics can't be monetarily bled dry by permitting them access to food.

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[–] brandon816 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not enough space to lock them up?

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[–] ShitArchon 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I'm going to guess you empathize heavily with the doctors telling Terry that it costs the NHS hundreds of pounds to keep him in the bariatric ward for a day, and he's eating off the snack trolley.

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[–] GumbyTM 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Why are professionals in the industry not pushing the idea of rationing and reasonable resource allocation?

We all know where healthcare is heading, why not let the fatties know that they will be the first to be denied excessive care?

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[–] Bout_tree_FITty 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

You should write an article on triage. Obese people have last on priority list.

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[–] DrShitlord [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Improved Manchester Triage System:

Number Name Color Max time
1 Immediate resuscitation Red 0 minutes
2 Very urgent Orange 10 minutes
3 Urgent Yellow 60 minutes
4 Standard Green 120 minutes
5 Non-urgent Blue 240 minutes
6 Fat fuck Brown forever

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[–] Not-a-goat 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Not quite, the blob is still alive.

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[–] SUPA_FUPA 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

TIL that fats can eat their way into brain damage. That's just scary.

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[–] DrShitlord [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

If you research the scientific literature, it's all about "Robb's Rule": if your disease of civilization isn't linked to insulin resistance, it's linked to transglutaminases. Works great. Hypertensive brain hemorrhage means essential hypertension (insulin resistance) plus defective vessels (also insulin resistance).

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[–] Runway22L 4 points 7 points (+11|-4) ago 

"What a pity she doesn't have to pay for it" You must be from the great white North. Ahhh, socialized medicine. I won't even start on our great "universal healthcare" experiment in the good ole USA! "The healthcare affordability act" mandatory and they fine you if you don't have it. I could buy a brand new Mercedes for what I pay monthly for healthcare I NEVER use. But I'm comfortable in the knowledge that if an obeast studs their toe, it'll get the finest healthcare in the world and I'm paying for it!

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[–] YamaMaya 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

National healthcare doesnt need to be that expensive, but obeasts make it that way by wasting everyone's time and resources. It os good to know that you cannot be denied care based on some arbitrary insurance clause, but of course it is a double edged sword in that the fats get their lifestyle subsidised by everyone else.

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[–] Runway22L 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

I made up my mind when I was young, and after seeing me grandma in a nursing home, that I'd make enough money to live, die and be taken care of in my own home with private healthcare. Now they've made boutique healthcare illegal. I hate this country.

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[–] FatWombat 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Unless we agree on letting peoples die on the curb (I don't), nationalized healthcare is great in theory. It gives you bargainning power, standardization, and is cheaper in the long run, the same way it's better to house homeless folk for free and offer them psychological support, that let them on the streets, and deal with the consequences years later. Guess I'm a filthy communist.

The problem is that is only works if everyone does it's best to keep the system afloat. Hence the need for heavy governmental shitlording, and pro-exercice campaign. As in, make all pools free, ensure there's a calithenics & co station in almost every public park, have cities get fitness instructors on payroll for free classes, etc. Also kick food industriels in the balls. Humans are not made for high fat/sugar/salt combos, it's straight up addiction, treat it as such.

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[–] 6738536? 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

And for fucks sake, stop subsidizing high fructose corn syrup. This is one of the worst policy mistakes the US makes.

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[–] Runway22L 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Yeah that's never going to happen. You're describing utopia and that can't exist where govt is allowed to run unchecked and full of corruption. And, incidentally in the USA, NOT REQUIRED to participate in the mandatory healthcare they force on the public.

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[–] DrShitlord [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Also kick food industriels in the balls.

Remove subsidies for corn and wheat, require them to publish the general production process plus photos (you'd gag at how margarine is made) and add a distance tax for all food, then see wonders happen.

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[–] DrShitlord [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'd love to have a two-tier system: a national healthcare system that covers the minimum of the minimum to keep people alive (i.e. in case of an accident), and a privatized second tier where insurance companies have total freedom, for example they can require you to prove normal weight and normal blood parameters; maybe even pay you if you manage to keep a chronical condition in check with pure lifestyle modification.

No kidneys for self-induced diabetes, no joint replacements for the fatties, no ICU after a certain age and/or preexisting conditions. That would be fair.

EDIT: Not Great White North, I'm from the Continent.

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[–] Runway22L 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Don't they already do that to some degree with organ transplants? No heart because of age, no liver if you're a boozer etc. Not the same but close.

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[–] theepilepticferret 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Canadian chiming in. Our healthcare really isn't that bad. The good thing about it being government run is that it helps keep the cost down. For example, I used to work for a laboratory. It was a private (ie. non-government) company, but they did a lot of work for OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan). So the government would give the lab a set amount of money and contract them to do all the lab work that was brought to them for that set amount of money. So instead of charging OHIP per test, the lab did all the work for a set price. There were also tests we did at the lab that were not covered by OHIP, which the patient either had to bill to 3rd party insurance or pay out of pocket.

Everyone thinks our wait times are atrocious, but they're honestly not that bad. Maybe if you live in the middle of Bumfuck, Nowhere things might be different, but here in the city if it's something life-threatening, you will receive care immediately. People say that our ER wait times are long, but it's honestly because people go to the ER for shit that they shouldn't go to the ER for - coughs, colds, the flu, prescription refills - things like this are low priority for triage, so they wait. It's also stuff that should be seen by a family doctor, not an ER doc.

For things that aren't life threatening, say, like a gastric bypass, the wait time for surgery can be up to 5 years. But IMO it serves those fucking fatties right.

Another good thing is that you know you will get the same standard of care no matter where you go. Unless it's a specialized hospital, the standards are laid out by thr government and everyone has to meet them. Going back to my time at the lab... Where I worked and 1 other lab were the 2 major laboratories in the province. We were regulated on certain things like test turn-around times and we would be audited for accuracy. I don't know all the details, but I know there were several government regulations we had to follow to stay in business.

The one thing I can think of that's a negative of socialized health care is that the doctors and nurses make less money than they would in the States. So we lose some of our greatest minds to other opportunities outside of Canada.

TL;DR: Canadian healthcare isn't as bad as people think it is

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[–] acidmakesmepuke 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

This really puts me off of being a nurse...

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[–] DietCokehead1 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I love your stories, @DrShitlord

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[–] 6738553? 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Me too. I saw DrShitlord's name and thought "Oh good. This will be interesting/infuriating."

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[–] DrShitlord [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Thank you!

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