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[–] fatfreelife 1 point 23 points (+24|-1) ago 

Oh no, she's bought into the Freelee raw till 4 cult. They preach that women should be eating 2500 calories a day and people should "smash in" the carbs - eating 1000 cal breakfast and lunch and 500 cal dinner. Neglecting to mention that both Freelee and Harley cycle hundreds of km a week and that's why they can both eat 3k cals a day. So these people go from eating at maintenance to eating several hundred calories more every day and only doing minimal exercise, and say they're gaining fat because of "metabolic damage". It's all bullshit.

I love eating a HCLF vegan diet BUT I actually log my food intake and don't eat 10 banana smoothies for breakfast because that's fucking insane. I have no sympathy for the dumbasses who have ballooned up to obese hippos on this diet either, they're the morons who chose to ignore facts and consistently eat more than they burn because they love overeating.

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[–] Guillemet 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Question, is Freelee considered a shitlady or a nonfat cuckoo? Putting aside her vitriolic rants and militaristic approach to veganism she seems to push a lot of fatlogic-y junk and of course CICO isnt even on her radar.

I mean, she doesn't seem overweight but that bitch be crazy!

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[–] fatfreelife 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think she's a nonfat cuckoo and the reason why she pushes so much fat logic and denies CICO is because she knows most of her audience are fat women who want to keep stuffing their faces but still lose weight. She's all about making money. It's really a brilliant scam honestly, every time someone inevitably gets fat, she says it's metabolic damage and they'll "lean out" in a few years once their body has healed itself. There's a few thin women on YouTube who also follow raw till 4 so Freelee can point to them as examples of how her diet works, even though they probably lost/maintained because either they were making sure to track their calories or they naturally just eat at maintenance.

She's definitely in it just for the $$$.

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[–] PCOSBelle 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

She cray

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[–] theword [S] 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

but... but... there is no such thing as overeating! Vegan for over four years, each year getting bigger than the next, but clearly as long as it's vegan you cannot overeat.

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[–] Harakka 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

We have a movement called "sipsikaljavegaanit" in Finland. It translates in to "chips and beer vegans." I think the name no-brainer. "We are vegans but we can eat all the disgusting shit all the time as long it is vegan." It's lard asses way to feel good about themselves because they are vegan but still scarf all the shit in to their system.

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[–] theword [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

She claims to eat oil-free and nothing but fruit and vegg for the most part... the problem is she is eating way WAY too much and too often.

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[–] MahLardy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I love Finnish, you guys have got a word for everything. Isn't there a word for "staying inside in your underwear and drinking"?

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[–] Harakka 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Haha yeah, it's kalsarikännit, last time I did that was yesterday

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[–] redditHasCooties 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

A bucket of sugar is vegan. I'm sure there's such a thing as overeating while vegan if you can consume a full bucket of sugar without breaking vegan rules.

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[–] interflop 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

I'm pretty sure Oreos are vegan.

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[–] SummeGai ago 

Like s/he said, a bucket of sugar.

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[–] Mr_Wolf ago 

They're also kosher

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[–] SUPREME_SHITLORD 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Hell yeah. You know how I know Oreo's are vegan? I know a fat fuck vegan lol

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[–] MamaCassHamSandwich 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

White sugar is often bleached with bone char.

I ruined my friends year when I informed his vegan wife of that fact. Now they have to buy expensive sugar.

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[–] redditHasCooties ago 

Thank you! Is the bone thing that was mentioned or is there something else that doesn't make it vegan?

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[–] Shitlord2016 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

This is what people do on the paleo diet. "I don't have to count calories, it's paleo." Then they scarf down a dozen paleo cookies.

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[–] TRlGGERED 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Ugh I know a fatty on paleo, won't stop preaching about how much more "healthy" and "energetic" it feels. Till we're on a stairwell, or an incline of any degree at all, and it's body tells a whole different story.

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[–] DamnYouAreIgnorant 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

*its

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[–] 5604622? ago 

Paleo is a great supplement to CICO, but it is no substitute.

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[–] YamaMaya 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

When people say there's "no such thing as overeating as a vegan" remind them that oreos are vegan.

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[–] hypercat 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

BARF BARF BARF. Oreos tastes like a bucket of lard wrapped in dirt.

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[–] Daucus7 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Last year i found out the black disc parts of an Oreo were supposed to be chocolate flavored. Blew my fucking mind. No way those are chocolate.

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[–] unikko 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

It tastes like shit because it is. It's all hydrogenated oil and sugar.

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[–] FruityRumpusAsshole 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Y'know, I had some oreos for the first time in years the other day. I thought the "cream" tasted like vegetable shortening or lard or some shit. The cookie itself was pretty good, but I always remembering the cream tasting that way. Blurg

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[–] EarthquakesAreScary 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I'm only vegetarian, but it often bugs me just how lazy about even that people are. I put a lot of work into balancing out my nutrition and making sure that I'm getting everything from my diet that I need to. And having talked to a lot of other people about it over the years I'm skeptical about how common that amount of footwork really is.

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[–] eatless_movemore 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Eating a balanced vegetarian or vegan diet > > > Standard American Diet (it spells SAD for a reason). Not to mention by virtue of eating less animal products and not being a gluttonous fat fuck it's easier on the environment.

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[–] The-Killing-Joke 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Hey there fellow veggo, I too, try and balance my diet to remain nutritiously sated on my meted 1500 cal/day! I do know people who don't seem to know where they get iron or protein if they don't eat meat, and I am forever confused by this.

They are mostly smelly punk rock guys who are such stereotypical dudes about food that it makes sense they don't give a fuck, but it's confusing nonetheless.

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[–] flclimber 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

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[–] PaoShadowBannedMe 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Wowzers. I've been on FPH for a while and that transformation was shocking. She went from a bit chubby, wannabe hippie to a true butterhuffer (and I don't use that word often). Jesus.

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[–] 5604634? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Butter isn't vegan. That thing is a sugarhuffer. 😃

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[–] theword [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I know, I was shocked myself... over four years vegan... really something.

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