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[–] Goathole 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It is a poorly-run investment system with weak returns mandated by the State.

SS is not, I repeat NOT, an investment. You are completely and totally wrong on all points. All of them.

Nor are pensions.

You have to differentiate between private and public sector pensions, they are not the same thing. Private sector pensions are part of a package wage funded partially by the employee and at a sustainable rate. Public pensions are taxpayer funded with no limit nor at a responsible and sustainable rate because.........they don't have to be when the funding is secured by the entire nation.

I can't put my finger on why you're being so dishonest. Either you're complicit with and feel the need to defend these programs or you're ignorant. I'm just not sure.

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[–] Goathole 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Also, if you get something for free, without paying for it, that is communist. I see.

There you go again, lying.

SS and Public pensions are NOT get something for free, without paying for it. It is something that is STOLEN from one individual and given to another by a third party.

If tomorrow the option was made that you could withdraw from participation in SS how many people do you think would continue to "invest" in it? If the state and federal government were made accountable for their public pension plans with sustainable limits placed upon them how long do you think those pensions would exist?