Welcome to V/ConcealCarry.
This is a public forum for all things conceal carry.
Feel free to share your opinions, ask questions, and start conversations about conceal carry firearms, home security, gun laws, and more.
There are no rules other than not being a dick and helping out newcomers. If we have to get to the point to make rules then we have deviated from the primary purpose. We are small enough now where civil conversation can be made and we can have a good time.
Some things to consider:
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Please don't be a dick. If someone has a Hi-Point pistol and it is all they can afford don't bash them. We at one point have been strapped and can only buy what we can afford.
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If someone likes Glock, Beretta, S&W and you do not, please don't bash or throw stones. I myself love all guns and will shoot any gun that is thrown my way. People have different tastes and that is ok.
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Any anti-gun or anti 2nd amendment hooliganry will not be accepted. This is America and we love guns. Especially the right to conceal and carry.
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[–] venuspcs ago
False, JHP's break apart and lose momentum rapidly when they hit a target. They do more internal damage but are far less likely to pass through-and-through.
[–] ToFat2Fish 0 points 9 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago
Hollow point their rate of expansion delivers more energy to the assailant it also reduce the chances for the bullet to exit the assailant with enough Force to kill a bystander.
[–] heili 0 points 9 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago
Hollow Point. Always. I don't want to shoot through the bad guy, just into him.
[–] mistryla 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
I carry hollow point. Even with my big slow .40 S&W bullets, I worry about overpenetration using FMJ.
[–] venuspcs ago
Anything from a 38 and up can pass through-and-through with FMJ's if they don't hit any bone in the process. JHP's are almost always the best choice for a CC weapon for this reason.
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[–] venuspcs ago
22's up to short barrel 38's should probably always use FMJ's. The muzzle velocity is so low that you would have to put the gun up to the perpetrators body when pulling the trigger to do any real damage if you used JHP's.
[–] 6double5321 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
urethane filled hollow points.
[–] DillHoleBagHands [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
What is the purpose of urethane filled hollow points? To make them more aerodynamic?
[–] 6double5321 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
The tip is red and feels like a pencil eraser. It's supposed to be better for a short barrel. And guarantees a large transfer of force from a larger mushroom. Hornady makes a few types. I'm carrying the critical defense.
[–] venuspcs ago
A normal JHP will penetrate then expand where as a rubber/urethane filled JHP will begin expanding on impact. In my opinion the filled JHP's do less damage to a perpetrator than a standard JHP because the expand on impact and thus the normal soft tissue of the outer body absorbs most of the damage and limits the amount of internal (organ) damage.
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[–] venuspcs 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Very good point.....there is another major thing to consider with JHP's....look into the center of the bullet, if the Jacket is segmented like the outer casing then it will have very little penetration before separating. If it has a solid Jacket and a segmented outer casing then it will penetrate deeper before expanding.
[–] venuspcs ago
Depends largely on:
A. The caliber of gun and barrel length, B. The skill of the carrier, and C. If your intent is to stop someone or just slow them down.
The larger caliber guns tend to have more kick with JHP rounds, like the 1911 Compact (3.5" barrel) I carry. The full-sized version of my gun (5" barrel) doesn't have half the kick of the compact.
If you are skilled at one hand shooting (which most of the time you will need to shoot one handed if pulling your concealed carry in public) then JHP's or FMJ's will work. Just remember that an FMJ from a higher caliber (38 or higher) gun can often travel through-and-through your target and may strike an innocent.....so I always carry with JHP's for that very reason.
If I ever have the need to pull my concealed carry in public I do not want the perpetrator to ever put someone else in that position, which is yet another reason I carry with JHP's loaded. They do far more damage and are more likely to permanently eliminate the threat.