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[–] youno [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well I sacrificed a keyboard to its god and now the machine is working mostly.

MSI and Linux clearly don't mix. Their BIOS has a setting to force the PCIE slots to run at a uniform speed or "automatic". But in both mainstream 3x and 4x Linux Kernels, none of the ACPI or ASPM respects those limits on the long slots.

It's honestly like they didn't test it before they shipped it. That is how I feel.

And it is why Fry's tells everyone when they leave there are no returns. I guess it's because they know they are selling vulnerable people poo-poo caca hardware for high range prices.

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[–] Voopin__Voopin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I don't understand why there have been over 1000 new chipsets since I was in school and I still do mostly the same things on most of my computers.

Ditto on that one. I went to pcpartpicker (i think) dot com, and they have a thing where you pick motherboard or case, and it only shows you compatable shit. I had to use that a few years back when i built my HTPC.

also crucial (the memory manufacturer) can tell you what speed ram you need. when i was still "into computers" DDR may not have even been out. I think it was SIMM vs DIMM at that time. Then i learned about DDR, and then i learned there was a few different speeds......

sheesh.

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[–] Melissus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Its not a coincidence that i can tell you.

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[–] youno [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I could interpret this a lot of ways. I would think it is a Chinese Conspiracy, but within the past month I've setup two other manufacturers mainboards and they are awesome.

I mean I guess I would rather they beefed up the VRM heatsync than have 5 extra strings of LED lights that come with the motherboard; but when you're in a tacky world like this one, go big I guess.