[–] TheBuddha 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It was a fella named Pythagoras who first discovered, or wrote about, the relationship of music and math.

To me, music is me expressing the language of mathematics. The two are intertwined, irrevocably.

Halve a string, you have an octave. The frets are laid according to the natural scale. There is no B#. There is no E#. You find Fibonacci in the scales, some of them. You see 5, often.

I haven't read this book, but I will order ten copies. I'm going to wait until morning to do so, 'cause I'm in bed. I will give 8 away, put one on a shelf, and put the other into my studio. I'll also surely read it!

Excellent find, thanks and thanks for pinging me AND giving me the honor of respecting my opinion on the subject. It's the type of book that I'd probably write if I needed money.

@cynicaloldfart @goatonamountain

It's late, so I'll just write this and ping you both. Subby will get the notification.

If there's a subset you want me to touch on, I'm kind of in a writing mood.

[–] cynicaloldfart 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

@TheBuddha may enjoy this.

[–] BlockMe [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

All the 60 year old goats are gathering, I guess.

Today's kids don't get Real Maths (tm). They google everything.

[–] cynicaloldfart 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I tagged him because just yesterday he was talking about this exact subject. He may or may not find it interesting, but is very well qualified and versed in this subject.

[–] TheBuddha 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

You don't get real maths, either.

That's not a put down, it's just an educated guess. Don't worry, very few people truly understand mathematics.

I'll have to be brief.

I'm going to write this as though you have no idea what you're talking about - but helpfully, is my goal. Please, don't take affront, it's just easier.

You learned arithmetic. Anything under a four year degree dedicated to mathematics is going to stop there. Truth be told, that's all they will ever need. But...

Math goes on. It's a language used to express and evaluate statements for logic.

bear:woods::human:bathroom <--- That's math.

Bertrand Russell took 162ish pages to prove 1+1=2. In the end, he concluded it was turtles all the way down. Well, he determined that it's just logicism. It's full of assumption and all very arbitrary.

But, it's a language. 2+9=47

There, I just lied to you with math. It's easy to spot many deceptions with math, but not always. It's easy to spot deception in music, but not always. If a beginner claims to be a virtuoso, you can tell they lied.

Math is so much more than the arithmetic taught in school. It's a vibrant shared language of egalitarianism. It describes so many things in so beautiful a manner. Math is fucking awesome, and I wish they'd teach some instead of ruining people by insisting they learn arithmetic by rote.

Again, not meant as an insult. It's just easier for me to assume you didn't get a very good math education. It's the exception, not the norm.


If you can tell me why, you'll understand math. Which is not to say you don't gt number theory or sets, but that you'll be able to point out the arbitrary silliness and pick a side for a wonderful nerd rage festival! ;-)

[–] TheBuddha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Oh! Have you watched Songcatcher yet?

[–] derram 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

https://archive.fo/uSFJP :

From Music to Mathematics: Exploring the Connections (Review) - Scientific American Blog Network

'Although I have a lot of experience in mathematics, music, and their intersection, I learned a few things myself. '

'Roberts, a mathematics professor at the College of the Holy Cross, developed the book for an undergraduate course in mathematics and music. '

'Throughout the book, in another contrast to other textbooks about music and mathematics, Roberts often uses music as a motivation for introducing a mathematical topic and takes a detour into the mathematics itself. '

'The final chapter, on modern music created with mathematics, has three case studies of modern composers who use mathematics in their music in some way. '

'Chapter 7 is on 12-tone music, another topic that gets a fair amount of press as a place where mathematics and music intersect. '

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