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[–] Nickodemus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

How do you prove that? Not the question of religion, but that of free will not existing.

The way i think, we are constantly presented with choices. You can choose yes, no, or other. "Other" could be anything at all. Yes, shoot the rapist. No, do not shoot the rapist, Other, join the rapist, call the cops on the rapist, run over the rapist with your lawn mower, etc. etc. Infinitely variable - thus, you have free will.

Please, explain how the logic of lack of free will exists for you. Give me something to consider.

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[–] ForgotMyGoat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Why would choices necessitate free will? If a computer can make choices without free will, why wouldn't we?

How do you define free will in a way that makes humans possess it, but natural processes, computers and animals notpossess it?

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[–] Nickodemus 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Choice of any response that you can imagine to any stimuli that you are presented with? Computers can make choices but they are programatically predetermined. Natural processes don't really make choices so much as pursue what their processes tell them will result in their survival or procreation. When you add the ability to reason into your response, that is probably where real free will occurs.

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[–] Artofchoke [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I have a thing about doing internet research for strangers. I don't think they use the resources, and I don't think they ask in good faith. I think they ask in the interest of creating the appearance of considering something they are in fact completely closed to. No, free will doesn't exist in the way we have thought of it. And if you really wondered about that, you'd look it up.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/theres-no-such-thing-as-free-will/480750/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/scientists-say-free-will-probably-doesnt-exist-but-urge-dont-stop-believing/ https://breakingthefreewillillusion.com/michio-kaku-criticisms/

Losing the illusion of free will is disastrous to a society, society would be destroyed by the fact of it, and because of this, even the scientists who acknowledge its a lie will say immediately afterwards BUT WE NEED IT!!

Now, you've pestered a stranger for data you could havec acquired on your own. Its cunty, its lazy. Don't do it anymore. Or keep being cunty, I guess.

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[–] Nickodemus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

well, I feel the need to point out that to understand the basis of YOUR statement \ belief, I need to review the same sources that you did to reach the conclusion that you did. I appreciate your presentation of the sources so i can start. Believe me, i will read what you linked so i can come to my own conclusions. I still believe i have free will but maybe this will make me believe otherwise (and, ostensibly, be the cause of my doom)