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[–] Butterbread 4 points 5 points (+9|-4) ago  (edited ago)

What is God though? If it was a force that made the universe or that allows physics to happen now or an entity that will come in the future, then what does she have to say?

But let's say God is watching and can change things. She expects God would intervene for every mishap, accident, or evil? That's heaven, not Earth. What if this life is Hell? What if it is basically a free for all to develop our character or root out evil? What does she have to say about these possibilities?

She may be right. There may be no God, but of course she may be wrong. No hope and a closed mind is a shitty way to get through life.

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[–] Artofchoke [S] 5 points 0 points (+5|-5) ago 

If pain and misery and struggle and being victimized as a child are what's required to 'develop character' under this thing, that says quite a bit about the intentions of the developer of that system.

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[–] Butterbread 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

I can't pretend to know the intentions of a God that might have created this universe. What if that God force is not here at the moment? What if the power of that God force is limited? My point is that there are too many possibilities, and really no logical reason to conclude something hopeless. The best one can hope to conclude on this is "I don't know."

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[–] Artofchoke [S] 6 points -1 points (+5|-6) ago 

Do you really think a world where the innocent aren't brutalized equates to heaven? That's pitiful. To aspire to so little.

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[–] 12173031? 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

I would not want to live in a world where the suffering of innocents were not possible. It would be heaven. No one would strive for anything because no one would have to strive against anything. What you expect of reality is absurd.

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[–] Pumbadog 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Trust in God and gives thanks for the good and the bad. Pray for peace on earth and everlasting life in heaven.

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[–] Butterbread 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

A world where innocent people are magically not brutalized isn't some kind of heaven? How is that pitiful or aspiring to "so little"? I'm really not understanding what you are saying.

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