[–] SayTan 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

China today.

[–] MakeUsaGreatAgain 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

So totalitarian statism can replace religion.... Ask me why I am not excited to hear this.

[–] SayTan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That was Mao's goal.

[–] TheWheelofTime [S] 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

So Buddhism, Taoism, Christianity and Islam don't count?

[–] SayTan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You said majority religious, which I do not believe china is.

[–] SayTan 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

China is also often considered a home to humanist and secularist, this-worldly thought beginning in the time of Confucius.

Because many, perhaps most, Han Chinese do not consider their spiritual beliefs and practices to be a "religion" and in any case do not feel that they must practice any one of them exclusively, it is difficult to gather clear and reliable statistics. National surveys conducted in the early 21st century estimated that some 80% of Han Chinese, that is more than a billion people, practice some kind of Chinese folk religion or Taoism; 10–16% are Buddhists; 2-4% are Christians; and 1–2% are Muslims. Folk religious sects constitute 2–3% to 13% of the population, while some intellectuals espouse Confucianism as a religious self-designation. In addition, ethnic minority groups practice distinctive religions, including Tibetan Buddhism and Islam among the Hui and Uyghur peoples.

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[–] 10164620 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Can you provide an example of ANY civilization that wasn't majority religious?

[–] TheWheelofTime [S] 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

You're making my point for me. I don't think it's possible. One day it might be.

[–] 10164787 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If you can say that it's been tried many times and failed, then yes, it supports your point; but if it's been the norm throughout recorded history, then we just don't know what a non-religious civilization might look like.

[–] Hebegebe 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, religion is necessary for the weak minded. There will always be weak minded individuals so long as individuals exist.

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[–] TheWheelofTime [S] 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Shinto and Buddhism are Japan's two major religions. While they're not as religious today as they were in the past, the majority are still religious. Also, their population is dwindling, which is exactly what I see in almost every population that becomes less religious.

[–] Goat_Cheese_Cake 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

So you're looking for an ancient civilization that hasn't been influenced by any religious beliefs? I can confidently say there isn't any. We can discuss why that is. But I'm confused, I thought you were talking in terms of prosperity and not of population growth. If you are saying religiosity leads population increase than I have no argument there. If your saying religiosity or population growth are indications of a thriving civilization than I strongly disagree. What I look for in a thriving civilization are low crime rates for murder and rape, a high GDP per capita, a life expectancy above 50, a majority of the population above the poverty line, low unemployment rates and a low number of preventable disease. Show me one nation that has all of this and tell me what god do the worship.

[–] goranko 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It has never existed such civilisation.

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[–] TheWheelofTime [S] 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

So there was a small tribe in the woods that wasn't religious? Is that it?

[–] JesusDrowning 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Civilization and religion go hand in hand. Just to play devil's advocate, I'll say religion might be so prevalent in civilizations because it is an effective way to control/subdue the populace. Off the top of my head I can't think of any good non-theistic civilizations.

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