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[–] AgriGrunt 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I am confused. Identical twins do not suggest that being gay is not inherent to the individual. It strongly suggests that there is no genetic predisposition, but it does not suggest homosexuality is not inherent. A child in the womb does not receive the same amount of nutrients, hormones, or epigenetic encoding. The majority of people that study homosexuality believe that epigenetic factors have a key role in the processes. There still is no choice by the individual. However, the pictures stance still stands.

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[–] jibrish 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Isn't this the same argument some theists use? "It doesn't disprove XX".

There still is no choice by the individual.

This is silly to say. There's not enough evidence to claim it's not a choice so there's not enough evidence to say this line.

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[–] fruitViking [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I don't need evidence to claim it's not a choice. You need evidence to claim it is a choice.

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[–] CaptOblivious ago 

There's not enough evidence to claim it's not a choice

Really? Do you think that all the gay bashing pastors and politicians caught in homosexual acts CHOSE to perform those acts? Or were they driven by their instincts, against their better judgement, even in the face of what getting caught would mean?

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[–] AgriGrunt ago  (edited ago)

I think you are confusing the logic. I am not saying that since there is no evidence to suggest a choice, ergo it must be inherent. What I am saying is that scientists think it is inherent and are currently looking for compelling evidence on a candidate cause.

If you take any trait that is visually inconspicuous, e.g. kindness or mental health, you are going to get uncertainty. The vast majority of people that are depressed have a dopamine imbalance. Does every depressed person have a dopamine imbalance, no. Does every homosexual have the same candidate cause, no. Sexuality is a very complicated thing. One cannot pretend it is only biological factors with zero influence of social factors. However, this does remotely suggest that the average homosexual made an active choice to be one.

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[–] lastdeadmouse ago 

I'm not saying that it isn't in someway inherent, but it is pretty solid evidence against it being genetic (though doesn't exclusive rule out a genetic predisposition).

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[–] AgriGrunt ago 

I agree that there is solid evidence to suggest that it is not genetic. However, that does not rule out a variety of other factors, including epigenetic or womb conditions (hormones).