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[–] EarlPoncho ago 

if you're a beta it will make you even more beta than you previously were

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[–] vivalafreakshow [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I'm not sure how a 80+ year old married hard working man with cancer and severe pain would be labeled. But I would not call him beta thats for sure.

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[–] BrettFarveFlavored 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

I have no doubts that elderly man could still kick your ass.