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[–] lastresort09 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It is great that you are trying to give the profit to your community, but I have to say, that this isn't a good idea for a number of reasons.

  1. People who have the popular/default sub names have a huge advantage over others who join whoaverse late. The reason default subs are popular is not merely because they are "default", but because their names are the most common categories that people check out. eg- videos, politics, news, technology, science, music, gaming, etc.

  2. These default/popular subs will get a high flow of users, regardless of whether or not you pay the moderators. So if you are basing your revenue distribution based on ads seen, you are literally giving away money for owning a sub.

  3. As others have already stated, this will reduce the quality of the sub. It will be geared towards what kind of content that will bring more money for the moderators, and that is not going to be good. It is much better for subs to do their own thing, rather than use money as an incentive to force things on the sub.

  4. Moderators will be hesitant to give up subs, even when they know they are no longer useful, because they don't want to give up on an easy income.

Everything else you stated is awesome, and definitely makes us stand out as a better alternative to reddit. It is good to remember that reddit didn't fail because the way discussions took place was bad, but because of other reasons. So there is no reason to be different from them, for the sake of being different. The idea that reddit was built around ups/downvotes, is definitely a good one, and it is good that we not changing drastically from reddit in terms of looks.

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[–] Atko [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I understand your concern. The name of a sub will not have any special value because there will be no defaults. We will use tags instead, so a post submitted to /v/xyz and tagged as news will automatically end up in /v/news if it gets large enough number of upvotes/comments. Think of it like an aggregator within an aggregator. People will be able to subscribe to tags, domains and subs so there will be plenty of room to experiment and find a fair solution.

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[–] lastresort09 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I edited my comment to add more reasons.

The way you want it to work out, could be interesting to see. However, wouldn't that pretty much make the idea of "subverses" useless?

Just to clarify, are you paying the moderators, or the users who manage to get the most upvotes? Also how would that deal with reposts, memes/pictures posts, etc. In general, pictures/memes get more upvotes than article submissions, because people are generally lazy and check more pictures than articles.

I know you are still thinking this through, but just curious if you have thought about these things. Definitely don't rush it.

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[–] salvia_d 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

there will be no defaults.

THANK YOU! :)

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[–] ballsack 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Is there any update on this tag system? Haven't heard anything else about this, but I'd be curious.

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[–] AssuredlyAThrowAway 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Whoaverse is also not run by corrupt admins who also do "social media consulting" :)

Long live atko.

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[–] MatAeronautics 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Personnally I love small communities where people are involved. Reddit is so big I don't feel like a part of a community on it, except on small subs like imaginarytechnology. Also I noticed that when people care about their community, they are more involved in it, and the quality is better in consequence. If I was to code a reddit alternative I would make it so that people would get ranks inside subs, the most involved users would be like the citizens of a greek antique city, and the visitors would be like tourist, with less rights. Each subs would be like a different city, with its own rules to accept new citizens, and what type of powers and responsabilities that come with your status. There would be "city concils" regularly organized. Traitors would be hung on the agora. Mmmmh I think it's time to stop my analogy haha...

Tl;dr : I'd love to see a reddit alternative organized like an antique greek city

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[–] InvdrZim13 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think the smaller community feeling of this place is nice, but there are a lot of sub that don't have enough activity, which is something that is holding this place back.

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[–] absurdlyobfuscated 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I've got to say, it's pretty cool that whoaverse is written from scratch. Impressive considering how massive a project is must be, with all the features and everything to it. It's really great to see what sets it apart - since reddit is open source anyone with the technical know-how can just start their own reddit clone, but this is it's own unique thing and that is very awesome. :)

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[–] gamehelp16 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

IMO whoaverse is just like reddit+

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[–] permatruth 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

YouTube-like revenue sharing model (in development, we will disclose more details soon) where community is rewarded with real money (reddit does not have this)

While that sounds neat, it is likely a big mistake because it allows monetary incentive to find weaknesses in the system and game them. If the site becomes popular, it may be taken over by people seeking to monetize on it.

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[–] Nurdoidz 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

After much thought on this topic, I've formed a positive opinion about it. I think the focus here should be shifted from differentiating WhoaVerse from being a Reddit clone to making WhoaVerse a 'better' alternative. WhoaVerse is a media aggregator and there's no changing that, so people are going to call it a clone for a long time. I think the best way to change their minds is to make it the 'DuckDuckGo/Bing of Google'. By making it a unique alternative.

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[–] Atko [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Perhaps. Only time will tell :)

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