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[–] algidum 1 points 657 points (+658|-1) ago 

DDOS first then making your old host close your account? This is war!

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[–] penguinman 2 points 646 points (+648|-2) ago 

this is the same EXACT shit that happened to 8ch and Hotwheels in this EXACT order. Welcome to outrage and censorship culture. Remember this the next time someone says "It's not censorship because you can make your own site."

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[–] Patchface- 5 points 166 points (+171|-5) ago 

Welcome to being a minority. I'm as upset as you are, but this is what happens when you're the minority.

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[–] Grizmoblust 1 points 102 points (+103|-1) ago 

Looks like it's time to decentralized the internet. Let's put users back in control of their servers, and ISP.

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[–] exolyte 1 points 38 points (+39|-1) ago 

Next is the .co domain, hotwheels lost ownership of his 8chan.co domain for a few hours/days because there was "content violating the rules" which was one of the reasons he switched to 8ch.net.

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[–] Ellimist 0 points 57 points (+57|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The "social justice" cult. "Social Justice Warriors" (SJW) can't tolerate the fact that some people disagree with them. They go out of their way to silence people who don't submit to their worldview.

They've infested reddit on the subreddit and admin level and they absolutely will not let us leave without a fight.

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[–] laancelot 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

I also would like to know. Just "SJW" doesn't really satisfy me as an answer. It's like having a ready-made strawman while there's no central SJW organisation calling the shots. As far as I know.

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[–] zveda 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Outrageous. Where can voat go from here? There must be some hosting service that values freedom.

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[–] plankO 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

@atko for president!

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[–] Goatfago666 0 points 458 points (+458|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Sounds like someone sees you as a threat.

Good work.

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[–] Nujabes 1 points 68 points (+69|-1) ago  (edited ago)

[Reddacted] trying to say Voat is nothing but then goes and does this. Lol

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[–] NinjaSaves 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

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[–] Draco 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It was awesome getting that user name huh?

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[–] SirPremierViceroy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Someone's scared... Hopefully all this will do is drum up support.

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[–] KrustyKrackers 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

pao pao pao

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[–] 2716057 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Shots fired!

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[–] MasterBillyQuizboy 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Ha! Best pun I've seen all week. It's nearly impaossible to not make fun of this raging bitch's actions lately. Is it racist to say that when I say her name, I think of moldy ketchup covered rice cakes?

Edit: Are we still doing this edit thing? ... added punctuation.

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[–] lleti 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago 

It's genuinely disgusting. For one, Voat doesn't have SRS (or SVS). Making it a FAR safer place to be.

The fact that people can silence whole communities so quickly via DDoS, and later moving to host-based censorship once DDoS protection is put in place.. it's sad that this is what the SJW culture has bred.

Donated via BTC. Hope you guys get through this.

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[–] agentlame 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

Voat doesn't have SRS (or SVS)

Would you object to such a sub? Isn't the point of Voat that all speech is equal?

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[–] deadalus 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Voat does have ShitVoatSays

/v/ShitVoatersSay

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[–] C_IsForCookie 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's ridiculous that anyone even has the time. I just don't want this to become political like Reddit became. I liked this place because it was exactly NOT that.

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[–] randominternetdude 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

First they ignore you, they laugh at you and hate you. Then they fight you and then you win.

Gentlevoaters (I was going to write gentlemen but some might be from another sex) I think we are now at the fight part. Donating via paypal.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago  (edited ago)

FYI, the "win" part includes the old enemies coming over to Voat (and they'll rationalize it in some way, as they rationalize everything). When Voat truly is seen as a better platform than Reddit (and I already think so), it will attract people who don't care about free speech or anti-censorship. SVS will set up shop here, and there needs to be a system of checks and balances in place to prevent powermods and bonafide brigading.

ShitVoatSays existing it its own subverse would be fine, as it's one of the prices of free speech. However, cancerous mods invading other subverses, taking over, inviting their friends, deleting comments, using AutoModerator or its equivalent to easily censor and ban people, etc., should all be made transparent and extremely difficult via protections built into the system itself. The system needs to protect free speech and make censorship far more difficult than it is on Reddit.

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[–] tubbytoad 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

This is my favorite poem. The structure and message are just so well done.

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[–] BlackBetty 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

My best friend is one of his descendants.

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[–] the_federalist 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not to take anything away from Dylan Thomas' accomplishment, I just wanted to point out that the structure is a standard poetic form known as a villanelle.

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[–] Fools_gambit 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Thanks for that I love Dylan Thomas.

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[–] Carinyc 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

More like https://youtu.be/H7tfvW_9kD8?t=3m26s (go to 3:26 if it doesn't auto fast foward)

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[–] Biff-Top-Johnny 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

FUCK YEAH

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[–] D-- 1 points 198 points (+199|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Terribly sorry to hear this. I really admire what you're doing and will be donating what I can by PayPal... while it's still open.

I'm really worried your PayPal account will be the next thing to go since they have disabled the accounts of many people with a similar cause. Please make sure you are cashing it out regularly. It would be terrible if some of the donations were lost due to spineless corporate bullshit.

Edit: Oh shit. Did it already happen? I am getting this message when sending money to hello@voat.co from my existing PayPal balance (not bank/credit):

We can't send your payments right now. If the problem continues please contact Customer Support.

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[–] Krackor 1 points 49 points (+50|-1) ago 

Just use Bitcoin. There's no one to step in and stop the transaction, so you always have control over your money.

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[–] Regulus343 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

No, it's not, but Voat is accepting Bitcoin which essentially eliminates payment processor issues.

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[–] HighlandValley 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Perhaps Venmo is a better alternative? Although, I have a friend who just got a job there and her twitter feed is full of women in tech/affirmative action, gun-control, and various other things that typically align with a pro-censorship stance. Not that it reflects the Venmo corporate policy necessarily, but from the position they created for her with only a bachelor's degree I'd say they are least in love with her tech abilities, and the political stuff has helped her get interviewed by some magazines so I'm sure they like the exposure there.

Edit - Scratch that, Venmo is limited to US residents according to their Terms of Service.

Edit 2 - Scratch it again, /u/ihaveamac has pointed out that Venmo is not a competitor of PayPal, but a subsidiary.

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[–] Kimmybjonsson 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I know a guy that ran a torrent site. PayPal decided to close the account and keep the ~$700 that was on it - all perfectly legal of course! Just check the user agreement.

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[–] zephyr1999 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

You might just be having other technical difficulties... I was just now able to donate without any hiccups.

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[–] kingemocut 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

hopefully they'll start taking credit card payments too, as a backup. hopefully.

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[–] HoboTeddy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm not an expert here, but credit card payments require some sort of carrier (like a bank). That's why it costs businesses a fee every time a customer uses a credit card.

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[–] Mattk50 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Paypal, patreon, gratipay, all kinds of funding sites thesedays will simply refuse to give money to ppl if sjws bitch at you enough. Be ready for the onslaught.

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[–] Genocide 0 points 129 points (+129|-0) ago 

Those that would shut down open dialogue and free spread of information without censorship are very powerful and will stop at nothing to quiet those that do not follow their agenda. This is going to be a long and difficult road. For the sake of everything that used to proliferate on the web - true freedom - I hope you are up to the task. I, (and I'm sure, thousands of others) are at your back.

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[–] TheBlueGhost 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Remember Atko, we love you. :3

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[–] temu 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Here is a link to the final Q&A for anyone else that may be interested. I may listen to a lot of this while at work today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYUKJBZuUig

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[–] farmer- 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

seriously though. I'm no techie, but I'm learning. I will do my part if the time comes to help fight for this place. Just say the word, Atko

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[–] SeraCharm 2 points 118 points (+120|-2) ago  (edited ago)

This is fucking censorship.

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[–] Bug_Catcher_Joey 10 points 56 points (+66|-10) ago 

It's not censorship. It's a cowardly company trying to cover their asses. It's a shitty situation but it's not censorship.

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[–] Genocide 3 points 30 points (+33|-3) ago 

And what do you call the people that are putting pressure on that cowardly company? Are they censors?

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[–] Patchface- 5 points 15 points (+20|-5) ago 

I agree with Joey here. It's a private company who can deny service to anyone they choose to (as long as the reasons aren't race, sex, age, etc.). They disagree with what voat brings to the table, but voat is more than welcome to move to a competitor. This is the free market. Not censorship.

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[–] profanion 3 points 14 points (+17|-3) ago 

It's still censorship. Just disguised censorship.

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[–] razuliserm 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

It's a cowardly company trying to cover their asses

This will backfire though. It's the Streisand effect. I didn't even know where @Atko hosted before this. I believed he had his server provider in Switzerland.

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[–] throughthedarkglass 1 points 102 points (+103|-1) ago 

1984 here we come.

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[–] Amarok 0 points 51 points (+51|-0) ago  (edited ago)

No. We've dodged that bullet, thankfully. Everyone has cameras in their pockets now. 1984 only works if only the government is in control of all surveillance powers. Everyone is always focused on the wrong book. Do them a favor and point them in the right direction when you see this brought up, let's spread a little awareness.

It's Huxley's Brave New World that should have you worried, not 1984.

What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egotism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Postman added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that our desire will ruin us.

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[–] Prometheus720 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Brave New World is so much more frightening, because you can fight against a government. Even the Matrix could be fought against.

But you can't fight the entire world and yourself at the same time.

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[–] Turbo_Sloth 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I can't upvoat you yet but I can say this is an interesting take that I haven't heard before. Granted, I am one of many who connects to the Orwell reference merely because I have read it... I must read Brave New World ASAP.

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[–] Bonerot 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Wow... that's... exactly what's going on. I'm going to have to read that one.

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[–] tonberry2 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I must add that Orwell also dealt with the complacency of the people as well, not in 1984, but in Animal Farm. The enemy in Animal Farm isn't necessarily the pigs, but the inability of the other farm animals to question what is going on before it is far too late.

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[–] TH0UGHTP0LICE 1 points 36 points (+37|-1) ago 

Room 101, thought criminal!

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[–] throughthedarkglass 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

Fucking great user name. Why didn't I think of that!

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[–] VictorSteinerDavion 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

This comment has been marked EC-10.

Please proceed to the incinerator for disposal.

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[–] IShouldNotTalk 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.” ― George Orwell, 1984

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[–] stacyalert 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Reminds me more of farenheit 451. Nothing can hurt anyone's feelings. If it does it must be censored.

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[–] Tigernado_Survivor 0 points 67 points (+67|-0) ago 

Politically incorrect > illegal

This is what I'm taking from everything lately.

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[–] 095179005 0 points 41 points (+41|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I've grown tired of being (this) considerate of people's feelings. They all need to grow some fucking skin, which they won't, of course. Edit: A word

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[–] fr3nchtoast 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Be careful man. Things in () are my trigger. How dare you not think of me

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[–] DanielKurlan 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Offending someone/group or making racial observations has become the ultimate social sin, its mind boggling.

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[–] Shagoosty 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

People get mad at me when I talk about sexual dimorphism. Apparently it's sexist (or racist) to say that genetics exist.

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[–] geekygirl23 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I replied to a comment on reddit about this and I'm pasting here.

Couple of things.

1) https://voat.co/v/announcements/comments/146757/357958

2) Recently found a jailbait sub over there that implores users to go ahead and post pussy and tits.

Not sure about Europe but as a service provider in the US there is at least one thing that has been found to be unprotected speech and that is porn depicting minors. You will not find a single legitimate host that will allow you to run a site that allows communities like this to exist.

Service providers are exempt from almost everything and have no requirements to police their content. In fact, it is suggested to not remove content that you think is copyrighted or similar because once you start moderating for things like that you are liable to moderate your entire site. Best to let the DMCA's come in and only take action then.

If however you as a service provider find potential child porn on your platform you are supposed to remove the content and report it to the authorities so they can investigate.

Again, suspected child pornography is not covered under free speech laws and anyone that wants to remain online is going to have to take action against it swiftly. Not only can it get your hosting pulled and website seized you can be held personally liable for your inaction, especially if someone specifically contacted you about it.

Atko seems a bit in over his head and overwhelmed with the decisions that need to be made on a site seeing rapid growth. He's going to have to make some tough calls but I'm sure the free speech oriented userbase will be ok with this kind of decision.

Maybe the laws are different in Europe but I doubt it as much as I doubt most people would willingly participate in a site that has this kind of content.

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[–] Caboose_Calloway 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Good point. I hope Atko and team see it.

Seems like you gotta diversify your hosting options and be able to ditch any host at moment;s notice. Just added hosteurope.de to my list of hosts never to be considered for any reason whatsoever.