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[–] kurfu 11 points 421 points (+432|-11) ago 

I honestly wouldn't mind non-intrusive (non animated) sidebar ads.

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[–] ExpertShitposter 2 points 257 points (+259|-2) ago 

This. I hate ads, but i hear people also hate working for free so.....perhaps a small optional subscription that removes ads. Because without something of that sort....the site will eventually shut down.

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[–] LonElliott 0 points 132 points (+132|-0) ago 

This is a great idea and I would gladly pay for it. You could charge 1.00 a month to remove the ads and most would do it, which would help greatly with the costs of the site.

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[–] Jefiakra 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

So...like reddit gold?

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[–] Omegametroidhunter 5 points 36 points (+41|-5) ago 

Ehh considering how much malware in ads in general maybe not

That said I would be down with croud funding

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[–] faissaloo 0 points 93 points (+93|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What about adverts like what 8chan has where you pay $5 and get to put up an image only ad for I think it was the week or something

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Most of the adware comes from ad networks, which companies use to maximize efficiency and profits. If Voat ever gets big enough to call its own shots, it could easily do ads that are vetted beforehand and not provided by an ad network. Unfortunately it's a cart before the horse kind of problem :(

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

What if the admins handled the ad space themselves instead of using an ad server?

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[–] go1dfish 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago 

How about instead of this, just let users buy sticky posts on the homepage for any purpose with few restrictions.

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[–] Foralltoosee 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The problem I have with advertisements is they come with advertisers who, once you're reliant on their funds can threaten to pull them if you don't make the changes they want to see and then we're reddit all over again. That said, I'm not sure what a viable alternative would be.

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[–] thesuperpapagai 6 points 250 points (+256|-6) ago 

You should allow subverses to buy ad space on the front page. It produces ad revenue, increases the size of smaller subverses and it doesn't involve third parties who are going to control and influence the site.

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[–] brucethemoose 1 points 57 points (+58|-1) ago 

This ^. It's a nice way to expose smaller subverses to the masses and generate a bit of revenue.

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[–] fagnig 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Its hit and miss to advertize a new sub, and im sure some people would pay $5 to get up on some front page rotation (like atko was doing manually for a while, but automated for paying customers).

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[–] ChillyHellion 1 points 23 points (+24|-1) ago 

I don't really like the idea of paying for visibility; I think we'd run into the same problem that you have with Reddit Gold: it's a great way to monetize, but paying for visibility just means giving less valuable content a leg up over potentially more valuable content. I don't mind having a featured subverse on the front page, but I'd hate for that to be a "pay to play" privilege.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I see what ur saying, if they do figure out a way if they went this route, it should be on a time limit once a month kinda thing or something.

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[–] Al_Rubyx 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If they're just non-intrusive ads on the top or side, they won't mess with the results of people ignoring them.

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[–] pembo210 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

I like this idea too. It's hard to get small subs exposure.

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[–] lackscompassion 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

The SDBH users would save all of their tendies money to put up awful ads.

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[–] thesuperpapagai 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

We should probably set up limits on how much a subverse can advertise and make it more restrictive for larger subverses. For example, we would have the first few advertisements be cheaper, but the more ads you buy the more you have to pay. Larger subverses would also be expected to pay more for an ad space than smaller ones.

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[–] frankenmine 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

It doesn't matter. What's the worst they can put up? Colorful language? Grow up.

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[–] FriedFood100 4 points 150 points (+154|-4) ago 

@Atko ...Maybe think about getting someone to implement a tipping system so users could tip other users for comments, posts, contributions, etc. and Voat.co would get a % of each tip.

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[–] 51rH0n3y84d93r 0 points 54 points (+54|-0) ago 

This would be better than ads.

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[–] ThisIsCathartic 1 points 32 points (+33|-1) ago 

This is one of the best answers, if not the best. Voat wants original content. There are so many ways to make this work.

@Atko, you know what you're doing but please consider looking into this if you haven't already.

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[–] 4044354? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They have that partner thing on trial still, no? Not the exact same concept, but it's similar.

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[–] 0ed 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago  (edited ago)

The greatest problem with this is that every user would then have to get a bitcoin wallet or something. And not every user would be willing to do that - it seems like a lot of hassle for a site where you can post shit and have fun.

Another potential problem that I can forsee is that, if Voat ever strikes it big, money-driven power users might become a thing. I'm not sure that they'd be a terrible idea yet - because honestly, if their desire for money gives us better content, it might actually be a good thing - but there's some tiny alarm bell warning against the idea of a monetized userbase that I can't really understand yet.

Perhaps I am simply afraid that monetary incentives will corrupt the original incentives to go on Voat - that Voat will become a place where the aim is to get tips instead of having fun.

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[–] FriedFood100 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Valid points, I'd tip you if I could. ;)

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[–] umpaloompa 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

but there's some tiny alarm bell warning against the idea of a monetized userbase that I can't really understand yet.

Maybe it will become a hugbox like reddit where everyone competes to get gold.

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What do you think about allowing users to pick a favorite charity in their profile page, and tipped comments would contribute a portion to Voat and the rest to the chosen charity? It wouldn't need to visually mark the comment like Reddit Gold does, just give the tipped user a PM indicating that their comment was tipped and their chosen charity received a small donation in addition to directly supporting Voat.

Edit: The idea was originally from /u/GreffeDuFoie's suggestion in /v/IdeasForVoat

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[–] FriedFood100 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

I think that's putting the cart before the horse. The first focus should be getting Voat financially stable. Maybe down the line something like that could be implemented, but I don't think now is the time to be concerned with that.

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[–] UncontrollableSphere 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I think it would make more sense the other way around. I give you a tip because I want to super-upvoat your post. You only get a blingy icon, while Voat and a charity of my choice gets the actual money. That way I don't have to check to make sure your preferred charity isn't, like, the KKK or something.

Or Voat can offer a choice of well-rated charities to choose from.

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_ARCHES 7 points 112 points (+119|-7) ago  (edited ago)

Put Monsanto ads on every Amalek alt post, and Voat will create enough income to stay online until the dawn of the next epoch.

Also, I totally called it.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 43 points (+43|-0) ago 

Amalek must use so many browsers and VPNs that advertising to him alone could probably keep the site afloat. I say fill his page with ads and make him sign up to win iPads every time he creates more than 50 accounts.

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[–] Falcon2_0 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

until the dawn of the next epoch.

That actually could happen by the end of this year.

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_ARCHES 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Well fuck. Amalek isn't the sustainable financial model I thought he was.

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[–] umatbro 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

the dawn of the next epoch

Empire Earth reference?

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_ARCHES 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Unfortunately not.

It does sound like a good name for a terrible black metal band though.

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[–] Fooj 2 points 98 points (+100|-2) ago 

Voat T-shirts. Just put the goat on it. User submitted designs and polls to choose what to sell would also be pretty cool.

Somebody more dedicated than myself should definitely jump the gun on this.

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago 

User submitted designs and polls to choose what to sell would also be pretty cool.

This is a great idea. I'd love a specialized /v/gaming goat, and I think playing to people's hobbies/interests by way of subverses is a great motivator when people buy things, especially T-shirts.

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[–] fagnig 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

No offense, the goat has taken on a nostalgic feel almost, cuz voat got bigger, but its not tshirt material. It definitely needs updating/pimping.

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[–] xaric 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Go beyond t-shirts: Setup an account with a vendor who makes shirts, mugs, mousepads, pens, etc., and let subvoats create their own swag. All profit for purchased items go to Voat. (/v/Motorcycle could have a goat patch for motorcycle jackets, etc.)

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[–] Scandinavian 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

While I don't think merch can run Voat sustainably, I'd easily pay $100 for a hoodie with the Voat Goat on it with some silly text like "Free speech is a bitch" on it :) If I knew at least half that went to running the site, of course.

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[–] 1quickdub 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

And little plush stuffed voat goats. Internet users love stuffed animals. Good for $30 a piece, easy

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[–] christ93 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I would pay $100 for that hoodie.

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[–] Impuredeath 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

It might be nice for when a subverse gets big enough they can submit designs. So you could have subverse specific tshirts.

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[–] thesuperpapagai 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I can't wait for the T-Shirts v/niggers and v/SoapDoxBanHammer are going to end up making.

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[–] thenerd 6 points 94 points (+100|-6) ago 

I would be happy to disable my adblock for you, please don't hesitate to put up ads!

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[–] Slayfire122 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Don't you miss the days when an ad showed a beautiful mountain view with a guy riding a bike instead of a disruptive add with a boring picture of a bike.

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[–] FringeSociety 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Agreed. Some sidebar ads seem like an easy idea that will at least help the cause!

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[–] Damndirtyape 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Ads are a slippery slope to sponsored content. What ever happened to the once a year donation till we hit our goal model? It works for wikipedia and public radio stations.

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[–] SandorClegane 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think the userbase might need to be slightly larger.

(Or messages advertising that need to be posted in bigger boards, one of the two.)

It's only 15k but the whole thing runs into that trouble of "someone else will surely chip in before I do and make it happen."

I think advertising your board (here, or possibly elsewhere) for a fee on the rotation is fine and dandy.

Probably best idea in the thread so far.

Also, speaking of "sponsored content..." Could always ask Ian Cheong to make some v/all posts for cash :^]

I figure sponsored content might work ok so long as everyone is on the ball and knows it's sponsored.

aka either they make and use an official corporate account (ala imgur) or longtime users pay to put some cause close to their heart up at the top for a day, with the understanding they will likely get mauled if other voaters find it disagreeable.

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[–] Dereliction 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Ads are like SJWs -- they infect everything with their bullshit and nobody really wants them around.

No thanks. I'll give to the Bitcoin address every month if they keep one up. Additional support options is good.

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[–] rwbj 1 points 53 points (+54|-1) ago  (edited ago)

So $5k a month. That works out to about $166 per day. Here's a really simple idea: for $10 you get to create a post up to 'x' words that's displayed on the sidebar and visible to every single person on Voat - for one hour. Self promotion, subverse promotion, rants, and amateurism in general obviously fully encouraged. Basically you're making a post that everybody will see. That's cheap enough that I think you'd have no trouble whatsoever filling it out and may even have to turn down people who want to buy up too many hours. A full month's booking works out to be $7,200 in revenue for Voat.

Keep it fun and simple. So no special rates relative to display time for instance. If somebody gets stuck at 4am (relative to voat primetime) sorry - buy another slot, it's only $10! And only display what time the ad will be shown once the person has paid. The touchy issue would be what's allowed content wise. The racist folk would line up from here until next year to be able to have a racist rant viewed by every single voater at $10/hour, so you'll have to make some decisions that are going to end up with people upset either way you go - but aside from that this seems like a simple and all but guaranteed way to keep Voat a truckin and even make a few bucks for you guys that started the show.

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[–] SWIMsfriend 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

perfect idea, just double the price and its great*

*there clearly won't be a full month's booking each month, so i'd rather they have a cushion, so even if its only 1/3rd booked they still break even.

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[–] xklevin1 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Coke ads, Pepsi ads and so on and so on

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[–] drj2 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I don't think this will work for voat being a free speech platform. You can't not let someone post something just because people will be offended by the content.

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[–] Spear1000 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is by far the best idea. I would use the shit out of this.

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[–] rwbj 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's a non issue for two reasons. Even when paying taxes 'fairly', for corporations taxes are on net income. Imagine you only got taxed on what you had left at the end of the month after you paid for food, rent, insurance, etc. That's the deal corporations in America get. Beyond that Atko incorporated in Delaware which is a domestic tax haven. They have a well known legal exploit that allows corporations to pay minimal to no income tax. It's the reason the vast majority of, for example, fortune 500 companies are incorporated in the state.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 52 points (+52|-0) ago 

Thank you for the update, it's impressive that you've managed to keep this place running but it's clear that the community is really going to have to step up with donations and/or purchases if we want to keep the place afloat.

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[–] ChillyHellion 1 points 31 points (+32|-1) ago 

I think just being able to someday take credit cards is going to see a surge in donations. I donated through PayPal before they shut down Voat's account, then tried to donate through bitcoin after. Bitcoin is a great concept, but it has more hoops to jump through than traditional payment methods. I don't know if donations are a sustainable model, but I think making donations as easy as possible will see a good return for the site.

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[–] go1dfish 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

Purchasing Bitcoin requires a bunch of hoops because of all the regulations around money transmission services, but once you have it, sending Bitcoin is actually much easier and hassle free than any other currency in the world precisely because it is not controlled and regulated by governments with ulterior motives.

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[–] Scandinavian 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

This is why we can't have nice things.

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