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[–] Coroner 12 points 6 points (+18|-12) ago 

Who cares? A sub creator should have complete control over the sub, they should be able to decide what who how the sub gets moderated. You don't like what the mods are doing, you're free to start your own sub or read and contribute to other subs. The only real issue I see is admin abuse, company employees censoring or influencing moderation, content and comments.


[–] DungeonMaster 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

No. Just because someone types the name of a sub into voat first, does not mean they are the right person to manage it completely and properly forever. People with proven track records of doing the right thing and solid moderation skills are the better candidate. For the same reason if a company fires an employee, the first person to run in and sit down int heir chair doesnt get their job, the company looks around for the most qualified, best fit for the position.


[–] plumsound 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly. All effective constitutions allow/allowed for changes, amendments, and reforms.


[–] Shammyhealz 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Right, but there's also nothing stopping someone from creating an alternate or similarly named sub with the same goals. /v/AskVoat already has several alternatives since that whole thing went down. With the exception of a very few subs that have very well known names from Reddit (i.e. /v/pics /v/AskVoat /v/technology really just anything that shares the same name as a Reddit default) the names are pretty arbitrary. If I'm into mechanical engineering, I could probably come up with a list of a dozen different names for a subverse.


[–] Zkv 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

At the same time though, I don't think a lot of companies tend to throw away their CEO who built the company up from a startup just because they make an unpopular decision. If you (an employee) don't like something the CEO did, you can suggest a change, maybe write a petition among employees, and see if the CEO will listen. Or if it's too big an issue for you, there's always another company to be created.


[–] Coroner 4 points -2 points (+2|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Why do you feel so entitled to what other people have? If the users of a sub can take away control so easily what's the point of moderation at all? Mob rule for all I guess. There's legions of idiots out there who would happily destroy any forum on a whim, how is your solution pracitcal in any sense. I feel like you are probably young, probably stupid, probably have been brought up spoiled as fuck in a home without proper parental guidance. Fucking Christ your analogy is shit, your idea is shit. Grow up.


[–] crysys 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

There is a problem in that some online 'real estate' creates a natural monopoly. Even when a lot of people started complaining about /r/news there were no really successful alternate subs because /news is such a generic and easy destination. So alternates don't really ever get the traffic they would need to ever out compete the old sub.


[–] barrinmw 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I agree with this 100%. This is why I cam from the other site, not because of SJWs taking over subreddits or whatever, but because the admins were coming in and dictating what kinds of speech were okay. I wasn't a member of FPH or coontown and disgrace vehemently with their positions, but I think they should have a right to exist if solely for me to point at and say, "don't be like that."