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[–] aboutillegals 4 points 15 points (+19|-4) ago 

And it should stay that way, default subs are pointless and just direct traffic towards already large subs, and are a barrier for organically growing subs to get attention and traction.

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[–] Shammyhealz 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

For people more experienced in newsfeed sites, you're right, there isn't a big reason to have default subs. They're more meant for people who are new/newer to the format who aren't going to instantly grasp what a "Subverse" is, or what subscribing to a subverse actually means. It also gives them a launching off point, since in reading the comments on a default sub will often include links to another subverse or threads from another subverse.

Like most applications, the defaults aren't there for people who already know what they're doing, they're for people who don't know how/why to change the defaults.

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[–] aboutillegals 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

But a v/all could serve as much a front page and introduction, with the added benefit of being more diverse.

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[–] NormDeplume 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Eh, yes and no. They also give people who are completely new to the site a place to start, to get a feel for how the site works, etc. I remember when I got started with Reddit, if it wasn't for the defaults (which I eventually unsubbed from), I wouldn't have had chance to understand how things work.

It's not about growing spaces, it's also about not overwhelming new people with a completely blank site, and thinking there's nothing here (not knowing you can search for default verses).

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[–] aboutillegals 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There would be a v/all kind of front page, not a blank site of course.

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[–] otto_mobile 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

(1) there needs to be something on the page when you come to voat.co (2) it's either random stuff, or sanitized somehow (3) default subs

Do you want an empty front page encouraging people to find things themselves, and giving them a list of subs that aren't marked NSFW?

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[–] aboutillegals 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

/all would be a great solution

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[–] applencheese 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I like having a select number of default subs. I think they are able to leverage the large userbase of the site to good effect, ie people with different backgrounds and expertise coming together in one sub instead of separated into different hobbyist subs. Some of my favorite posts from the "other site" has been when and expert appears in one of a default to share their experiences.

Also, some subs are just going to be bigger than others. There is nothing wrong that /v/news is bigger than /v/modelairplanes. It would be beneficial to the entire site if they grow and become places for people to start discovering more interesting subs, possibly even stuff they didn't even know existed! Personally, I know my subs are not just a list of my hobbies. They also consist of many subs that I only discovered when I was reading the defaults.

I believe default subs should be like the mac n cheese of voat. They should be appealing to the large majority, and be as neutral as possible. This means subs with a built in agenda should never become default, like /v/fph. It sounds bad, but defaults should be least common denominator subs. Stuff that will appeal to almost everyone such as /v/gaming, or /v/aww and harm almost no one.

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[–] aboutillegals 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The big ones would end up mainly on the front page anyways, but when there are cool stuff in smaller subs that would show up too. Additionally when there is a growing sub it would get more traction. These would be more general interest stuff also most likely. Finally when the neighbourhood is on fire, I would like it to be obvious, and not have to learn it from some not yet deleted comment and then investigate what happened, or worse, learn it from outside media.