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[–] L0w_Key_Lyesmith 7 points 19 points (+26|-7) ago 

Currently there are no defaults. I just registered and was subscribed to nothing (and offered to browse most popular subverses).


[–] 6double5321 3 points 39 points (+42|-3) ago  (edited ago) See those words in grey? Those are the "defaults." You don't have to subscribe. They are there, unless you overwrite them in custom options.

EDIT: nice, 32 minute old account. :o)


[–] L0w_Key_Lyesmith 7 points 2 points (+9|-7) ago 

Oh, they are, I didn't subsribe to half that crap. Thanks.

Hmm... well, I still don't think admins should be stepping in. That's what reddit did you know.


[–] aboutillegals 4 points 15 points (+19|-4) ago 

And it should stay that way, default subs are pointless and just direct traffic towards already large subs, and are a barrier for organically growing subs to get attention and traction.


[–] Shammyhealz 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

For people more experienced in newsfeed sites, you're right, there isn't a big reason to have default subs. They're more meant for people who are new/newer to the format who aren't going to instantly grasp what a "Subverse" is, or what subscribing to a subverse actually means. It also gives them a launching off point, since in reading the comments on a default sub will often include links to another subverse or threads from another subverse.

Like most applications, the defaults aren't there for people who already know what they're doing, they're for people who don't know how/why to change the defaults.


[–] NormDeplume 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Eh, yes and no. They also give people who are completely new to the site a place to start, to get a feel for how the site works, etc. I remember when I got started with Reddit, if it wasn't for the defaults (which I eventually unsubbed from), I wouldn't have had chance to understand how things work.

It's not about growing spaces, it's also about not overwhelming new people with a completely blank site, and thinking there's nothing here (not knowing you can search for default verses).


[–] otto_mobile 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

(1) there needs to be something on the page when you come to (2) it's either random stuff, or sanitized somehow (3) default subs

Do you want an empty front page encouraging people to find things themselves, and giving them a list of subs that aren't marked NSFW?


[–] applencheese 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I like having a select number of default subs. I think they are able to leverage the large userbase of the site to good effect, ie people with different backgrounds and expertise coming together in one sub instead of separated into different hobbyist subs. Some of my favorite posts from the "other site" has been when and expert appears in one of a default to share their experiences.

Also, some subs are just going to be bigger than others. There is nothing wrong that /v/news is bigger than /v/modelairplanes. It would be beneficial to the entire site if they grow and become places for people to start discovering more interesting subs, possibly even stuff they didn't even know existed! Personally, I know my subs are not just a list of my hobbies. They also consist of many subs that I only discovered when I was reading the defaults.

I believe default subs should be like the mac n cheese of voat. They should be appealing to the large majority, and be as neutral as possible. This means subs with a built in agenda should never become default, like /v/fph. It sounds bad, but defaults should be least common denominator subs. Stuff that will appeal to almost everyone such as /v/gaming, or /v/aww and harm almost no one.