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[–] [deleted] 18 points 299 points (+317|-18) ago 

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[–] Bahb 0 points 139 points (+139|-0) ago 

not familiar with Slashdot but this idea appeals to me in a big way. It could have made Reddit absolutely perfect. That way i could go into the comments, sort them by Funny to see the best joke or dankest meme, then sort by Informative to get the actual scoop on the article or whatever (or, more likely, have the article debunked for me).

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[–] GeorgePBurdell 1 points 18 points (+19|-1) ago 

Slashdot also limited the number of mod points available. Maybe folks only get 10 points per day to spread around as they see fit? But then you also have their meta moderation system that would determine if you are doing a good job at moderation.

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[–] AlphaTaco 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This is exactly what I would want. It would foster more conversations . post won't be pulled down or up from brigades or stupid people.

Just like you said I could go and sort a post based on what users voated as

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[–] HowAboutShutUp 1 points 83 points (+84|-1) ago 

This seems like a forehead slapper of an idea. One of the biggest problems with the up/down system is that it's arbitrary and lacks nuance. That's obviously not going to solve the other issues, but frankly I think its a pretty clever way to make votes both not count as much in the way they do now as well as making them count more as a way of actually responding to the comment vs responding to the tone or the idea or the person who posted it. Figuring out how that would affect scp and ccp is a challenge, but I think it's a worthy one to consider and I hope @Atko and the rest of the community gives your idea some thought.

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[–] TheRedditExodus 0 points 31 points (+31|-0) ago 

And then you could sort by type of voat. So if you wanted funny comments, sort by them etc. Seems like the best idea here to me.

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[–] kittypuppet 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Figuring out how that would affect scp and ccp is a challenge

Maybe just getting a vote counts towards it?

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[–] Zoomski 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Definitely this.

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[–] Treviso 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

SCP and CCP remain as trophies for early users and we switch to a different system? Just as an idea.

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[–] paulbain 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

@Atko wrote:

So, what do you think? Should we do away with moderators site-wide? I for one am happy to experiment and try something new. I don't recall seeing a site with a voting system like this (4chan with voting?) and who knows, maybe that's exactly what we need?

Moliver replied:

What if the Slashdot voting system were to be incorporated into Voat? Instead of a single polarizing up/down vote, how about 5 or 6 parallel switch votes. Informative, Insightful, Funny, Off-topic, etc.

FWIW, I registered at Slashdot.org in August, 1998, just a few months after it went online (in late 1997). Furthermore, my Slashdot userID number is 9907. That's right, under 10,000. I was one of the first Slashdot users. I am very familiar with Slashdot.

The software that runs Slashdot is called "Slash," which had a feature that no other, social news software has chosen to implement: META-moderation. This feature acted as a significant check on a moderator's use of his privileges. During meta-moderation, a user reviewed the moderations of Slash comments and made a judgement as to whether the moderation was fair and reasonable. If the meta-moderator (and user) determined that the moderation was unreasonable, the moderator suffered a punishment. I cannot recall exactly the nature of the punishment, but, IIRC, it may have involved the loss of "karma," which is the counterpart to Voat's community points (CP). For more information on this matter, consult the O'Reilly book, "Building Web logs with Slash" (probably no longer in print, but available used on Half.com).

IMO, Voat (& Reddit, for that matter) desperately need some form of META-moderation in order to check moderators' abuse of their privileges. Without meta-moderation, there is no check on moderators' abuse of their privileges.

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[–] Fenrirwulf 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

That only works on /. because their moderator points are few and far between. You only ever awarded 5 moderator points, they are only available for a limited time, and you can go weeks in between awards. It would not be possible to meta moderate a site like Voat with near infinite moderation just due to volume unless you had an army of people that never actually participated in the site other than to meta-moderate. Also to be able to meta moderate correctly you would need to have some knowledge of the subject matter which again played to /.'s strengths but would be very difficult on such a diverse site as Voat.

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[–] thuvia_1 2 points 10 points (+12|-2) ago  (edited ago)

i do not like this idea. it makes for lazy subscribers. why should people bother to comment on anything when there are several little emoji faces at the bottom of the article that may or may not quite totally represent how a user 'feels' about what's said in the OP? oooh this is an insightful post, let's just click that little icon under "Insightful" so it can seem as though i have something to contribute. next thread, please!

i feel as though i'm being patronized any time i go to a website that has a voting system like that. like i'm incapable of determining myself what to think about a submission, here are some handy little ways to feel so i don't have to bother with it.

*edit-forgot a word.

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[–] bilog78 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

i do not like this idea. it makes for lazy subscribers. why should people bother to comment on anything when there are several little emoji faces at the bottom of the article that may or may not quite totally represent how a user 'feels' about what's said in the OP? oooh this is an insightful post, let's just click that little icon under "Insightful" so it can seem as though i have something to contribute. next thread, please!

I absolutely agree. And on top of that, there is also the issue of possible discrepancy between the judgment value and judgment score. For example, while most of the time trolling is likely to get a -1 Troll, there are a few (as rare as they might be) circumstances where the quality of the trolling is such that a +1 Troll. Comments (combined with up/downvoats) are much better at conveying this kind of information and should be encouraged in this sense.

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[–] Sullysq 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

This is how I feel about it too. Plus, in having more voting options you're actually limited more in your expression. I realize you could still comment to express yourself more clearly, but like you said, this would encourage lazy consumption. This would encourage people to only feel one of x amount of ways about something.

I also don't like the idea of completing a micro survey on every post and comment in order to have influence. Not every post requires such consideration. Sometimes it's just a shit post and needs a downvote.

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[–] brandonttech 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What about if they had the regular upvote/downvote as an option too along side of the others. Would you still feel the same way?

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[–] mneln 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

People who don't have anything worth saying shouldn't comment anyways. Passive participation is important too, as lurkers make up a majority of any community.