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[–] thoughtpolice 32 points 809 points (+841|-32) ago  (edited ago)

No, you can have default subs, and the rest of the subs.

Voat should have control over the default subs, but must first define the default subs.

Edit:

Since this comment somehow ended up at the top, please read the post linked at the bottom.

This comment is just a quick and dirty TL:DR of it:

https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/comments/427157

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[–] Aradiel 10 points 298 points (+308|-10) ago 

That sounds like a good idea - when a sub becomes a default, then it's as if the administration team are taking extra responsibility for it, so it will be held to a higher standard than non defaults.

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[–] GuenMakunikoru 6 points 186 points (+192|-6) ago 

I like this idea. To be a default sub admins hold the mods to higher standards. Mods can choose to be dicks, But then they'd lose their default status. Consistent, no whack-a-mole and voat keeps its integrity.

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[–] tribblepuncher 1 points 155 points (+156|-1) ago  (edited ago)

This should only be done if the sub itself has some say over becoming a default sub.

Just swooping in and saying, "Hi, folks, you're a default now, so spruce up or we're kicking you current mods out!" is ultimately pretty rude to say the least.

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[–] Nogrim 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

simple approach is don't change the defaults and keep things that might have issues with censorship OFF of the default list.

i am okay with pointless crap like v/catpics being a default, the problem comes when you have political subs added to the defaults. imho these "contentious" we will say, subs should remain off of the defaults if they are going to be heavily moderated.

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[–] 2good4hisowngood 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The problem becomes the ambiguous nature of morals. While one sub may have no problem with name calling, if it became a default then lost it because of people complaining it becomes an issue where the hate mob can find any reason to take a sub's default status that they earned.

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[–] HarpoonTheFatty 3 points 186 points (+189|-3) ago 

Hijacking this. Clearly a FPH subber but I'm not under any illusions that my view is shared by all and understand the sub probably does offend and piss a lot of people off. But the way we run our sub suits our users and we like it that way. We don't want to be a default and I think we're fine keeping to our corner. I agree maintain a high standard for default leave it be for the others. FPH might be large but also quite secular.

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[–] TheBuddha 1 points 180 points (+181|-1) ago 

What is more awesome is that you FPH people do a VERY good job at keeping your content in your little corner. I like that and commend you. You do not 'spill' out into the rest of the subs, usually, and fill them up with rants about your opinions. I'm a natural skinny guy so I checked out your corner and did not find it appealing but it is not like I care what you do with your space. I like that you are open about it and keep your content there on your side of the playground.

I appreciate that. I think others would be well suited to examine how you accomplish it and consider trying to encourage the same.

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[–] President-Sanders 6 points 26 points (+32|-6) ago  (edited ago)

I read fat people hate and love it, but I've never liked the "no fat tears" rule - I realize you'd get a lot of "this is bad blah blah" crap, but isn't a downvote enough?

Never sat right with me, I figured it was just a joke rule.

We all like to see people agreeing with us, and hate having to deal with the same bullshit ignorant fucks, but there must be a better way.

People being pointlessly wrong, and not constructive, it's annoying and an ugly thing to have to see each day - but what's better?

I agree with the idea of no moderators, and let people vote how they want and say what they want.

I am sure there'll still be good fat people hate content

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[–] makingreen 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Agreed. I came to Voat with "The fattening". I love having a place where I can speak freely and not be doxxed or harassed simply for having an opinion contrary to the current PC mindset.

At the same time, I think a lot of us FPH do not want to see it as a default verse. We're not trying to be "all up in your face" or force our rhetoric down your throat. It is exclusionary, true, but I doubt the people being excluded would even want to be part of the community if they could

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[–] King_Of_Ancapistan 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I totally agree, I'm fat, and I left reddit because they banned y'all and other subs, I've never gone on the sub, and don't plan on it, but y'all have a good time in your sub.I think @atko was just using your sub as an example of the slippery slope that asking the admins to intervene in the drama of a sub can lead to.

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[–] ShineShooter 4 points 9 points (+13|-4) ago 

Sub selection upon user registration would be a good start on this.

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[–] leixiaotie 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Won't it'll be inconvenient?

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[–] 6double5321 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

What do you mean by this?

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[–] thoughtpolice 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

New users are not subscribed to anything by default.

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[–] frankenmine 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

As the number of available subs increases from tens, to hundreds (this is where Voat is right now), to thousands, to tens of thousands, to hundreds of thousands (this is where reddit is right now), this becomes impossible.

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[–] Disappointed 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Generally agree with this and whats in the link. It's also a good short term solution and test if you decide to implement non moderation later.

Edit: besides the 'supreme court' stuff, that sounds like clique waiting to happen.