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[–] aikidoka 6 points 67 points (+73|-6) ago 

lol, 5 months on the site; I currently sit at 15CCP, and cannot downvote the truly shitty useless posts... I occasionally post a comment, but just not an everyday thing.

I think some form of balance could be found. I like that you're working on the issues that do exist for those of us who aren't in the standard voat use case. But I do agree with the general sentiment that a downvote ≠ disagree.

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[–] dante2025 3 points 20 points (+23|-3) ago  (edited ago)

If you don't participate in the community then you shouldn't be able to downvoat opinions you find "shitty." If you lurk, then lurk. If you want to be able to participate then contribute to the discussion. I've been here about a month and have well over 200 CCP. It's not hard to do.

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[–] 9ac504b832 2 points 21 points (+23|-2) ago 

But our upvotes are good enough? I'll be honest, I kind of resent you saying people like us don't participate, when I've been nothing but supportive of people. We're not lurking, we're just keeping our dumb opinions to ourselves (mostly).

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[–] cfl1 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Comment downvotes and post downvotes are quite different.

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[–] aikidoka 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

wow, ok. I am busy with my life instead of the being in front of my laptop 24/7. And I was talking about posts or links to content not comments.

I like user sourced sites to read interesting content, and not everything that's posted is quality.

For example, when a heavily biased article (either direction) makes its way on to /v/politics and adds nothing to the conversation; I consider that a shitty post; There was one exactly like that yesterday, the only thing I have been able to down vote, and it wasn't an OpEd either. I like my "reporting" to be, what journalism used to be, well written and presented with both sides of the story as available at the time of publishing. Think about the crazy OpEd things that happened in the news surrounding that CEOs dismissal... not good reporting and not ethical at all. We should be making informed decisions based on neutral information, not the crazy MSNBC/FOX group think we get now that influences ideas and thoughts. Look to the SJWs and the crazy "liberty"/tea party folks for extreme examples of that byproduct.

/steps off soapbox

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[–] Hand-Banana 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago 

I fully expect to NEVER be able to downvote.... Even if you get 100ccp it goes down. You either have to be super popular, super active or just create a ton of accounts and upvote yourself. At least fewer people can go through your history and sage your posts.

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[–] gattaca 8 points 13 points (+21|-8) ago 

The 100 point downvoat thing is what discouages me from participating on voat, no one likes to be told they are not leet enough to participate snd this includes downvoating obvious spam. You want my content and participation, don't insult me by forcing me into the kiddy pool.

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[–] NinjaPoolboy 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Ya me too. If upvoats are for Agreements downvoats MUST be for Disagreements or else the system is really fucked up. Which it is. I personally think this "no downvoating disagreements" thing was part of the SJW strategy that killed reddit.

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[–] calyxa 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

"Obvious spam" should be REPORTED not downvoated.

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[–] whisky_cat 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Wait, you're being forced? Please explain.

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[–] I_EAT_THOUGHTS 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Down voats aren't "participation" - commenting and contributing are. Down voats exist only to identify posts that don't contribute to the discussion at hand. Maybe the poster didn't read the article, maybe they didn't understand the comment they are replying to and are being negative. Regardless, if being able to tag those posts is more important to you than being able to discuss things with others, it's probably a good thing that you'll never be able to do it.

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[–] PuttItOut 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Promote this guy for offering his opinion.