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[–] sweetholymosiah 13 points 41 points (+54|-13) ago 

Why? Downvoting is the soft censorship the voaters need! Mods should have less power, and the users should vote as they please to control the content.


[–] Vailx 14 points 71 points (+85|-14) ago  (edited ago)

No, downvoting is what YOU like. There are places where it's utter shit. Letting subverses opt out of downvotes is amazing and smart. Plenty of places have "downvote problems" where a few dedicated shits run around on sockpuppets and obliterate comms. Since the things are of niche interest (specific minor video game subreddits, etc.) these places end up totally crapped on, because the normal rate of upvoting doesn't cover the few metatrolls.

I think the ability to block downvotes in a subverse is a huge competitive advantage this place has over reddit. Some places have the mods as god emperors, and others have them as people pruning spam and crap, and the type of subverse determines which is appropriate.


[–] sweetholymosiah 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Actually I said we should avoid downvoting and actually have conversations. I think downvotes should be avoided, but if we are going to only allow upvotes, why don't we just have a "like" button and pretend we're on facebook?


[–] PropagandaKilla 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Yeah. I wish people were more aware of the astro-turfing sock-puppets, and 'hive mind' brigades. It is a major problem, and one of the reason I came here.


[–] escapefromredditbay 4 points -2 points (+2|-4) ago  (edited ago)

why is it wrong to like downvoting? if its so bad why is there the arrow ight there to do it?


[–] deanna 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago  (edited ago)

How about if you down vote it's mandatory you have to put a comment in there for why you did it. And I can't be a single word, it has to be a sentence or something like that...? Of course this would be for the subs that have downvotes enabled.

This would also be a good teaching tool for people who are downvoting because they disagree.

edit: omgosh... did i get downvoted because people disagreed? lol. my first downvotes. i'll cherish them.

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[–] escapefromredditbay 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

thats, a downvotes function, yes. but, whose to say pure upvotes is less of an echochamber-potential?


[–] l_l_l 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

How are upvotes not just the inverse of this? They are the same thing, except one is down=disagree the other is up=agree. I don't get how the fact that it goes down is somehow different.


[–] redpilldessert 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

But it is also interesting to see how many people agree on a given topic. So maybe we need two types of score - one for how much a comment adds to the discussion, and one for how much people agree with it.


[–] TrivialGravitas 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's a big problem on Reddit in debate subs (which Voat doesn't seem to be big enough to support yet sadly) because the side with more users downvotes the other side into oblivion. Even removing downvotes via CSS doesn't work, the same kind of asshole who downvotes people for participating in invited debate is the kind of asshole who will circumvent the CSS.