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[–] AnTi90d 0 points 32 points (+32|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I 100% do not support the removal of restrictions from negative CCP accounts.

The first thing that will happen is the CTR/ShareBlue cunts come back and endlessly post their outright lies, again. If you let those people have fully enabled accounts, you're just asking them to act in concert and upvote each other's posts. (They all work in one office. It's easy for them to organize behind the scenes.)

The next things that opens Voat up to are hostile takeovers like r/the_Donald has outright said they will try to do, again or r/SRS, as they never really gave up.

Taking away negative CCP restrictions sounds so great and altruistic on paper, but that's one of the main things that have protected Voat from organized groups of subversive cunts that aim to control and change this place to their own whim. You aren't helping new users, you are only helping our enemies to attack us and attempt to gain control of the site to change the entire culture of Voat.

I like this place, as it is, and I'm not even a Christian or a Republican. I like being able to stand up and say, "NIGGER-FAGGOT," at my whim. The people that this change will help most are the people that fully intend on downvoting every instance of what they consider, "offensive speech." First, they're allowed to exist and post as much as they want, then they organize a large group to upvote eachother, then they use that large group of now positive CCP accounts to impose their own brand of cultural Marxism on this site, just as they have done, everywhere else.

This is going to be your greatest mistake, @PuttItOut. This could potentially be the beginning for the end of Voat as your current userbase is concerned. If you want to make life easier for new users, that's one thing, but unrestricting negative CCP accounts only serves to empower Voat's enemies.

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[–] PuttItOut [S] 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

I think my track record is pretty good when it comes to not ruining Voat. I don't plan on starting now.

I've read your comment and I agree with many things you say. I fully understand the forces at work here and I'm not planning on giving them a win.

If we can't develop a better solution we leave it as is. I seek only improvements and this is an area I believe we can improve.

You notice that I'm soliciting feedback and not acting like a dictator. If I had malicious intent I wouldn't come to the community and get feedback well before making any decisions.

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[–] AnTi90d 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

In no way am I trying to imply that you have any malicious intent. I place immeasurable value on you and your time helping to keep Voat alive and I thank you for that. I also am grateful that you voice your future plans with us instead of just changing things and telling us what you did, after the fact.

I just think that the removal of restrictions from negative CCP comes from a place of hopeful, good natured optimism.. and that is the kind of sentiment that has come back to bite many a nation.

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[–] Laurentius_the_pyro 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I second this, negative CCP restrictions are the only thing preserving voat culture in the face of the horde of "squeak" /r/the_donald and other degenerates.

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[–] 10247094? 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

The first thing that will happen is the CTR/ShareBlue cunts come back and endlessly post their outright lies, again. If you let those people have fully enabled accounts, you're just asking them to act in concert and upvote each other's posts. (They all work in one office. It's easy for them to organize behind the scenes.)

Upvote manipulation, especially with alt accounts, is going to be limited on the new Voat and it is also a bannable offense. Also lying is not grounds for censorship.

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[–] Crensch 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

The first thing that will happen is the CTR/ShareBlue cunts come back and endlessly post their outright lies, again.

Also lying is not grounds for censorship.

No, but saturating this place with obvious lies, and manufacturing popular support will reduce the amount of real estate for legitimate users. If I have to scroll through 3 paid-for 'opinions' for each decent comment I want to read, it won't be long before I find the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

For every paid-for opinion, the amount of visible real estate for legitimate users shrinks, and it will continue to shrink until the non-paid-for opinions stop showing up, because it's not worth fighting for the small spaces left.

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[–] the_magic_man 6 points -4 points (+2|-6) ago 

You are literally saying you don't want to hear opinions you don't like. Voat is a free speech site, people mass downvote users to give them negative ccp. It's a terrible system and leads to no one being able to use the site unless they agree with the voat hive min6 which is right wing.

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[–] Howie 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You are here to disrupt and destroy Voat. And for no other reason