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[–] DanielFlamino 2 points 1118 points (+1120|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Hang on Voat, we can survive another Reddit wave!

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[–] RustySpitoonBouncer 0 points 355 points (+355|-0) ago 

BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES

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[–] askl56 1 points 274 points (+275|-1) ago 

/r/IAmA going private is like a defensive wall being put up. You might say it's a ... rampart.

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[–] abpples 39 points 152 points (+191|-39) ago  (edited ago)

Voat's new censorship

Downvoating is what reddit uses to silence dissenting views.

People don't typically upvoat, even if they like something. They will just look at it.

But when people get butthurt or see things they don't like they DO DOWNVOAT. You're assuming that people use both buttons the same way.

Voating is a censorship tool because it doesn't depend on rational argumentation. It only depends on CONSENSUS. That's why SRS use downvoat brigades because they know it's only purpose is to censor content they don't want seen by others.

Look, our entire political system should make it more practical. We don't let everyone vote in elections for a good reason: we know that retards are the majority of people. You want Bill Gate's educated vote negated by some homeless retard on the street? That's EXACTLY what democratic voting does. That's exactly what the movie Idiocracy was about. When you give everyone an equal say, you negate the point of education. You negate the point of rational argumentation. If a baby can negate the vote of an adult, then you don't really need to learn how to think. All you need to do is make people agree with you. And bribery is the fastest way to agreement.

Since people tend to downvoat when they're butthurt and engaged in censorship, the best way to combat censorship would be to only allow UPVOATING since people will actively have to champion what they believe rather than focus on what they want to complain about and censor. You can look at upvoating as positive censorship since it at least puts the burden on the upvoater to be accountable to their views and say what they prefer instead of simply complaining about what they don't want.

Stating what you want to happen takes EDUCATION AND EFFORT. Complaining about what you don't want just requires the ability to be butthurt.

I'd rather err on the side of positive censorship if we have to censor at all. We already know how negative censorship turns out: it becomes reddit.

At least positive censorship requires EFFORT that keyboard warriors aren't willing to invest. So if we want to make this place different from reddit, we should ONLY have an upvoat button.

And while we're at it, let's remove the scores from the profiles so keyboard warriors who are already socially retarded don't start jerking off to their fake internet power.

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[–] Warden 1 points 120 points (+121|-1) ago 

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[–] greiton 1 points 98 points (+99|-1) ago 

lets have a nice shanty

Pao Pao Pao you dumb cunt

the storm is nigh with lightning

Pao Pao Pao you dumb cunt

your site is slowly sinking

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[–] shoulderdestruction 0 points 203 points (+203|-0) ago 

Anyone that's checking this place out that's new, this is a great place. There are many people here that are patiently working hard to produce OC and have in depth, intelligent discussions,and though I can't speak for the entire community, I welcome everyone here to explore and find a place you like, and if not, carve out your own.

It's really exciting to be a part of something as it grows.

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[–] Rainthelingeringwind 0 points 84 points (+84|-0) ago 

Considering I just came from the other place, you are very welcoming. have an voat-up

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[–] Kayzaks 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago 

We, or at least me, will not try to ruin it! Glad to be here. Now where do i get my greencard?

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[–] dysfunctional_vet 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

As a refugee from the other side, I am very grateful that the powers that be are as willing as they are to give us all asylum.
I look forward to what grows from this, and what happens in the future.

Here's to new beginnings.

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[–] bezier 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

im another one from the other place, and i like it here alot so far. Looking forward to being a part of this community. :)

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[–] turboanalisis 0 points 50 points (+50|-0) ago 

Brace yourselves, a 404 is coming.

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[–] ohaitherehowdoyoudo 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

You predicted it going down for ~1 minute

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

more like a 503 AMIRIGHT!?...sorry

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[–] McNastyFilth 0 points 42 points (+42|-0) ago 

Time to crack open some champagne for our new guests. Drop a couple of coins into the emergency fund.

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[–] Do_Want 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

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[–] coinpile 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Thanks, I thought I'd come check out a possibly better place. Just drop those coins right on me.

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[–] BarelyHalcyon 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Can I have vodka instead?

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[–] gromenawer 0 points 245 points (+245|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They fire a mod from IAMA, who apparently was very beloved and resourceful.

As a result, a lot of popular subreddits has been set to private as protest.

EDIT: Apparently the mod was actually an admin too. Please read further in the comment tree for more info.

EDIT2: List of subs going private: https://np.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bxjyu/list_of_subreddits_suddenly_going_private/ . Holly jumping volcano!

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[–] 1Q84 0 points 47 points (+47|-0) ago 

Woah, /r/iama is private!

Do you have any more info or context?

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[–] fluffingtonthefifth 0 points 43 points (+43|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] Imabigplayer 0 points 37 points (+37|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Her real name is Victoria Taylor /u/chooter

This is who they fired http://veuwer.com/2pn4.png

Have a read her about her firing https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/193855/

EDIT SHE JUST GOT FIRED 1 HOUR AGO WTF http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3bwev7/i_had_the_pleasure_of_meeting_uchooter_in_person/csqgud5?context=3 Archived found here: https://archive.is/a9xea

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[–] Elek1138 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Victoria, who organised and ran most of the AMAs, has been let go, without any warning. Several subreddits are in disarray as a result, as they have no way to contact several of the scheduled AMAs. Victoria even offered to help with the AMAs during the transition, without pay, but the admins said no.

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[–] gromenawer 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

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[–] turboanalisis 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

We should start a betting pool on when their next fuck-up is gonna be

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They fired a community manager admin that was responsible for coordinating the AMAs for a few subreddits (and perhaps had other duties), for unknown reasons. They had no migration plan in place to make sure that operation continued smoothly, and, apparently, didn't adequately communicate with the mods and users most affected by it. Though we still don't know the reasons for her termination (they could even turn out to be perfect valid, such as she was taking kickbacks from AMA targets), people are pissed off and revolting against the admins by setting their subs private, affecting literally millions of users and lurkers.

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[–] Crookston 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

No, the mods set the subreddits to private not the admins. The users want the mods to set it to private so it hurts reddit even more. The admins want the subs to not be private because that's what brings the money.

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[–] maverick715 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

She was actually an admin

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[–] McNastyFilth 0 points 194 points (+194|-0) ago 

I'm sad/glad to see Reddit pulling the trigger faster than expected.

Welcome everybody who's new to VOAT! No bullshit here and hopefully it stays that way longer than ~5 years.

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[–] Rikvidr 0 points 49 points (+49|-0) ago 

almost?

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[–] SpaceRosa 12 points 12 points (+24|-12) ago 

Is that right? Can you prove this was something Pao did, or are you just blaming her because it's fashionable right now?

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[–] Jamie_Dodgems 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Maybe they're trying to pull off a variant of The Producers scam.

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[–] PUCK_FAO 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

almost

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[–] I1I1 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

Maybe we can achieve the perfect balance... the people who want a "safe zone" stay there (the majority), the people who give a shit about their freedoms and want real discussion come here, but there are enough people that stay that the corporate shills think they are still reaching a significant audience there (so they stay).

Maybe one day.

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[–] polkadotgirl 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

Yes safe zone people stay at Reddit!

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[–] Zendo 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Just registered; Fuck reddit. (Because of this case and others)

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[–] challengederped 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

This shitstorm should have happened weeks ago when the "fattening" happened. The exact same bullshit is being pulled, only now are the subreddits standing in unison and shutting themselves down. The only difference is it doesn't involve a controversial subreddit.

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[–] McNastyFilth 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Yeah, that's when I personally made the switch to VOAT. I go on to check KiA (KotakuInAction) simply because the userbase hasn't made the switch yet. I wasn't convinced that the fattening would get everybody on board but come the fuck on. This has to bring a great chunk of the decent minded folks over here now. I'd also love for people who don't necessarily share the viewpoints VOAT may have to come join us too. We need the discourse to make this place last and become a permanent spot for everybody and anybody that doesn't believe in censorship of any kind.

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[–] dugganmania 0 points 133 points (+133|-0) ago 

They've gone full DIGG

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[–] Orbitrix 0 points 53 points (+53|-0) ago  (edited ago)

And know you what? They're going to make a lot of money in the process. As far as they're concerned, someone else can bare the responsibility of free expression. They're going to gut reddit, and sell the remains to the highest advertiser.

Looking at Ellen Pao's history, this should not be a surprise. It is why they hired her.

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[–] DreadPirateKiwi 0 points 34 points (+34|-0) ago 

If everyone leaves it won't be worth anything

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[–] dugganmania 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Well then the reddit userbase will move on I am sure. Many moved from Digg to reddit when Digg v4 came out and I am sure they will move yet again after these events.

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[–] Step_into_Liquid 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

What do you think the aftermath Reddit user traffic will be? Right now they average 160 Million right? Will Voat's userbase quadruple tonight? and next week? and the week after?

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[–] chkiss 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

bear* the responsibility.

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[–] AvatarKorra 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Looks like Voat is going to become the new Reddit.

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[–] dugganmania 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Yeah but without the ridiculous censorship

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[–] OrionBlastar 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Soon they will have multi-page articles with clickbait on them. Videos on the page that autoplay, and pop-up advertising.

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[–] KeredNomrah 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago 

I love both of your statements, so excited to see this place expand.

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[–] Brah 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Yeah, rules fucking suck. Especially when they are abused for censorship.

If I want to use the word nigger or faggot, or nigger-faggot, I should have every right to. Fuck SJW cancer.

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[–] SpeakYourTruth 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

But is that a rule?

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[–] Rafa 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Is this a rule? Duck it, have an upvoat.

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[–] jackieclay 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

I feel like few people can even downvoat here yet. I sure as fuck can't.

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[–] Step_into_Liquid 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

We shall overcome!

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[–] Avnomke 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Most people from the last exodus should be able to downvoat by now, if they contribute regularly. I was able to downvoat 10 or so days after registering.

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[–] Avnomke 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Most people from the last exodus should be able to downvoat by now, if they contribute regularly. I was able to downvoat 10 or so days after registering.

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[–] ColaEuphoria 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

That won't happen. Karma is a flawed system.

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[–] RedSocks157 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Been working on that. I'm already seeing people saying shit like "le voaters" and stupid shit like that. Pun threads and memes will be next to come over.

We have to keep that shit under control here!

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[–] rosary505 0 points 100 points (+100|-0) ago 

All aboard the voat boat!

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[–] asphol 0 points 44 points (+44|-0) ago 

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[–] I1I1 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

I embrace it -- that site has made so many bad decisions. I want nothing more than to see it sink its own ship.

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[–] KateWalls 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Hi, just decided reddit is done for me. This site looks pretty cool tho.

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