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[–] Dumbtickles 0 points 201 points (+201|-0) ago 

Front page, stickyed, welcome to voat.

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[–] Makes_U_Mad 0 points 88 points (+88|-0) ago 

Fuck yeah. I love this place more everyday.

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[–] cctv 0 points 32 points (+32|-0) ago 

Yes yes yes! Let's bond together

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[–] CarrollQuigley 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

By contrast, check out this BS:

https://slimgur.com/image/TV8

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[–] 4ChanCat 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Except I dont like seeing "continue this thread" link after only 3 comments?? -.-

they need to fix this.

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[–] id 1 points 32 points (+33|-1) ago 

ELI5 the TPP?

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[–] mustacheofdoom 0 points 48 points (+48|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This comic goes over it.

eli5:

It's a trade agreement that will overrule whatever laws we pass in our own country. Wait, what?

And the corporations that want it don't want us to see what's in it before it's passed. Wait, whaaaaaaaaat?

And screw Reddit for pushing down discussion of it. Wtf.

It looks like, among other things, the TPP will give corporations the power to sue governments if those governments pass laws that reduce profits. For example (and this is a REAL case!) if a government passes a law that makes cigarette companies use plain packaging on their products, a cigarette manufacturer in another country can sue the government and probably win.

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[–] gnarchar 1 points 36 points (+37|-1) ago 

Here's a pretty good explanation of what's wrong with it, with a link that further explains what it is. Credit @rwbj

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[–] FruityPants 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago  (edited ago)

This video gives a simple concise overview

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[–] bubblesort 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

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[–] sec 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No kidding eh, cheers to that

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[–] exname 0 points 118 points (+118|-0) ago 

I'm so proud of voat right now. The front page is full of TPP stories instead of stupid controversies pushed by the corporate media to distract the public. Voat truly is the spiritual successor of what reddit once was. Atko, please man, never let the site slip like reddit did. You have my utmost respect.

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[–] Bing11 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

My only upset this far is the number of people that came over from reddit who failed Logic 101. But glad to see real news make it to the front.

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[–] stonerboner 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Logic 101: When voat gets big enough(see profitable), it will be sold to the highest bidder.

But until those 3-5 years from now, wheeeee!!!

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[–] SterlingItachiArcher 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I would like to hijack this comment to say we need a system in place in case ATKO or the Admins ever get blackmailed or court-ordered to do something against the wishes of VOAT.

How can we establish a protocol now, so that when he receives orders to administrate the site a certain way, we would know that he is being forced to do so?

we need a way to know that, Atko won't get a court order telling him to do things against the wishes of the Voat community.

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[–] metmodmin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Surmised almost finely with grammar of impeccable. But glad to see a fellow Bing supporter.

Edit: aw, you fixed the grammar that made your post look like trolling

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[–] Fact_Checking_Alien 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I propose we get #TPP trending on Twitter to ensure a wider audience, and encourage media reporting from more sources.

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[–] Ladygnome 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Now if only I could upvote more of these informative posts and comments... The limited upvotes is irking me. I do prefer the subject matter and much more limited censorship on Voat, as opposed to Reddit.

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[–] Yukken 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Let me help you reach the required CCP count with an upvoat! :)

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[–] gnarchar 6 points 64 points (+70|-6) ago 

BUT WHAT ABOUT FLAGS

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[–] Yukken 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

They shall prepare for sexual combat.

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[–] buttonpincher 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

You say that like it isn't a big deal.

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[–] Makes_U_Mad 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

MAH OVERTIME!

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[–] Tonguestun 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

No flag? No country.

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[–] KL1 2 points 44 points (+46|-2) ago 

I can't even begin to understand how representatives of the people are going to vote on something they aren't allowed to fully read! Is this how Democracy's supposed to be!?

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[–] AngrySpacePimp 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

That feel when democracy didn't work out like we planned :( this is a huge issue that's going to have to be resolved sooner rather than later. There may be some serious shit going down in the coming decades if the people would get off their asses and recognize the corruption bullshit we're facing.

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[–] TKCHBL 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

representatives of the people

haha

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[–] Sorahzahd 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They do represent the people.

The people corporations who pay them.

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[–] theoldguy 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

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[–] technologyisnatural 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Once negotiations are complete, the full text of the agreement will, of course, be made public.

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[–] elricsfate 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It's been negotiated and voted for fast track before the document could ever be reviewed by all but a few senators and reps.

The 30-60 day period after it's presented to Congress will almost certaintly not be enough time for review and debate considering the breadth of this document.

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[–] Penguinkeith 1 points 38 points (+39|-1) ago 

Wooooahh I had no clue about the copyright laws. That's bullshit!

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[–] drmss 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

The scary part is we're only seeing the stuff that they presumably don't find as inflammatory as the stuff they're hiding. If they've released (or at least didn't bother to carefully guard) this info, what do they have in there that's even worse?

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[–] BlurryScreen 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yup and the only reason we know at all was because wikileaks leaked out information, the extent of TPP, TTIP, TISA (Yes this is all branches of the TPP...) that wanted to be disclosed was essentially just the name and it would promote economic growth (according to the politicians)

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[–] Dereliction 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

We even know about this much because of Wikileaks.

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[–] Yukken 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I'm trying to figure out what kind of animals would be patentable.

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[–] Wolfgang617 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Genetically modified ones would be my guess. For example the glow in the dark animals.

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[–] metmodmin 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I wonder if lab grown meat would count?

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[–] adam1z4j2 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Dinosaurs.

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[–] Momerath 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Are there any resources that show who is getting money for supporting TPP, or which industries are giving money for political support of the deal?

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[–] Jazzy 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

I decided to compile the scribd list into something a little more readable. It appears Goldman Sachs is the largest contributor, at $195,550, where the average contribution is around $18,000. There are many global corporations like Coca Cola, eBay.. It seems like shipping companies, pharmaceuticals, mass media, and tech companies make up a lot of the list.


ACLI $25,000 AFLAC $21,500, American Apparel $2,000, Archer Daniels Midland $1,000, APL $2,500,

Biotech Industry $4,500, Boeing $39,360, Caterpillar $28,000, Chubb $8,500, Citigroup $42,700,

Coca-Cola $40,950, Chevron $21,000, Disney $21,200, DOW $20,100,

Ebay $12,500, Exxon $18,500, Facebook $17,500, FedEx $42,500, Fluor $7,500,

Ford $34,025, GE $36,500, GM $7,500, *Goldman Sachs $195,550, Halliburton $17,000,

Herbalife $2,600, HP $5,275, Intel $21,350, JCPenny $2,500, Johnson & Johnson $12,500, Metlife $31,000, Microsoft $11,500, Monsanto $20,000,

Morgan Stanley $34,800, Motion Pictures Association $3,500, Northrup Grumman $35,950, Novartis $17,000, Oracle $9,000,

Pfizer $35,950, PhRMA $14,500, PPG $2,600, Proctor & Gamble $14,900, Quallcomm $7,000, Target $14,500, Telecomm $10,500, Time Warner $14,000, Toyota $3,000,

UPS $85,950, VIACOM $11,600, Xerox $6,000, Walmart $25,261,

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[–] Momerath 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

These are great. Thanks.

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[–] Jazzy 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Amongst others it is natural resources like gas, oil and coal.

edit; shipping, pharmaceuticals, media, tech and investment firms.

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[–] MindExplosion 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

How come I don't have any representatives?

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[–] stevenxdavis 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I'm on it.

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