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[–] psymin 6 points 478 points (+484|-6) ago 

I think that this is a reasonable ad policy.

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[–] RumbledFeathers 0 points 140 points (+140|-0) ago 

I don't really mind ads. I'm more worried about the site remaining a platform for free speech, no matter how offensive and that you guys aren't stressed out running the site.

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[–] InfoTeddy 0 points 43 points (+43|-0) ago 

The only thing I don’t like about ads is how advertisers force the platform to deliver a certain message, because the platform’s costs happen to largely depend on the advertisers. If the platform has said a message the advertiser doesn’t like, the advertiser can simply threaten to stop paying the platform unless the platform takes that message down.

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[–] DammitMoonMoon 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

Absolutely, re: free speech. @Atko, can you tell us if it looks as if that will be effected by using ads?

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[–] Indiana_Jones 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's my concern too. But if you had offers. TAKE those offers! But don't give in to their demands. WE are here. WE are going to see those ads. But if they're not happy with that, drop them. If you have offers for Ads, just take them. And shouldn't that be enough, you can always still ask for donations.

But don't take Microsoft or a big company like that, because the SJWs will fight that anyway.

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[–] KoKansei 1 points 27 points (+28|-1) ago 

@Atko, don't forget about bitcoin integration. Make it possible to top up your voat account with bitcoin and tip people as easily as you can upvote/downvote. Such a system would have the dual benefit of providing a revenue stream to the site while also allowing content creators to be more directly rewarded for their contributions.

Reddit created a new format for consuming information by leveraging the power of user input in the form of a simple voting mechanism. Imagine how much more powerful a system based on actual monetary rewards might be at incentivizing people to create great content and allowing other people to easily find and consume said content.

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[–] InnocentBystander 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

a system based on actual monetary rewards

That is a double edged sword.
More often than attracting great content, it seems to attract low effort/high reward behavior. Meaning jokes and circle-jerk. Jokes are not always bad, but they can drown out serious conversation.

If the purpose for commenting is about the rewards, I'm afraid quality would suffer overall.
I don't think the idea is all bad, but I'm not sure it would have the desired effect.

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[–] Amalek_lives_matter 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Amalek BONUS recording explaining the multiple layers of political censorship on Voat.

http://picosong.com/KLiU

.......

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[–] BB-3 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Exactly this. My problem with ads isn't that they exist, it's that most of them are bad. They're loud, in your face, track your activity, spread malware, and use up bandwidth doing it. Since Atko seems to have covered most of these concerns, I'm down with sidebar ads. I'll even turn off my adblocker on voat.

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[–] Shagoosty 5 points 201 points (+206|-5) ago 

As much as Voat hates ads this is the right move. Voat with an ad in the sidebar is better than no Voat at all.

And maybe give everyone an ad free version for like $7 a month or something.

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear 8 points 41 points (+49|-8) ago  (edited ago)

when i can simply block the ad for free?


"voat with an ad.. is better than no voat.."

is quote of the day for me, though, no matter how opposed i am to the very existence of advertising.

but let me ask you shagoosty: do you think it will stay one ad?

or will the ad-cancer grow, like it always does?

edit: that's neat, i posted this "1 microcentury ago", or 52.6 minutes yay!

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[–] RedditCEOEllenPao 9 points 10 points (+19|-9) ago 

That seems like an awfully entitled attitude.

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[–] Shagoosty 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

What's your suggestion on how to keep this site free?

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[–] immutablegecko 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Even if it seems like the use of ads will always spread doesn't mean we shouldn't try to do something about it anyways. It's not a futile effort. Money speaks, but we can speak too.

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[–] FeelinFroggy 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago 

I've been through a couple decently populated forums in my day. Best ones I ever did join were possible through paid subscriptions. I say 'best' because the quality of the community just completely skyrockets once you take it out of the "Free" bin and slap a price sticker on there.

I'm not saying Voat needs to do this, just... food for thought.

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[–] reeperpill 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Can you name some examples? I don't know a single forum with a paid subscription.

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[–] TremorAcePV 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

There's a balancing act though. A community without activity is dead. Needs to be a balance between high quality paid users and users who create content/activity.

Lower bar to entry = more activity by nature, I think.

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[–] onezeno 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'd pay a subscription for voat, fwiw. Just a small fee, $2 a mo or so. Perhaps voat should be open, but to vote, comment, post, etc you must pay the fee.

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[–] the-gerbil-in-my-bum 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

the fact that you have to pay though really does force you to hold your tongue abit as getting banned = wasting your money

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[–] 5034586? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I like the idea of a dual revenue stream model. Have advertising, but also have a monthly ad-free subscription.

The subscription would bring in more money on a per-user basis than advertising, and would provide a direct incentive to care about the users over advertisers.

As a long-term goal, atko could aim at getting enough money through ads and donations to become self-sufficient.

I could even see going a step further and setting up a non-profit so any income from voat would be tax exempt, (and no worries about selling out)

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[–] CANCEL-CAT-FACTS 4 points 107 points (+111|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Voat is my absolute favorite website of all time. Thank you very much for your hard work and integrity. You are the greatest goat ever.

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[–] EdSnowden 5 points 86 points (+91|-5) ago 

We want to be able to work full time on Voat. We love Voat, we love doing what we do and we want to focus all of our energy on Voat.

I'm glad you no longer see this as a side project.

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[–] KingMortales 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

That's not actually him, is it?

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

@edsnowden is just busy destroying people in rocket league...

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[–] EdSnowden 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Relevant username....

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[–] RedditCEOEllenPao 2 points 76 points (+78|-2) ago 

So, what do you guys think? Are we doing the right thing?

Advertisement is, unfortunately, a necessary evil.

Ads cannot have animations, ads cannot embed 3rd party scripts. We will not track ad impressions and we won’t track clicks on the ads.

This is good. This is very good.

As a courtesy to everyone who donated, we will allow you to turn-off ads in your user preferences (pending a software update), but of course you are always free to block our ads.

Why not another option where users can pay for an ad-free experience, so they get to both browse without ads, and don't have to feel like leeches?

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[–] heili 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

Yeah I would donate like the same amount every year to subscribe to an ad-free tier.

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[–] jxfaith 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

Why not another option where users can pay for an ad-free experience, so they get to both browse without ads, and don't have to feel like leeches?

I'm sure there are plenty of people that wouldn't mind setting up a monthly chip of $5-10 for that.

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] RedditCEOEllenPao 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Ok, you and I fundamentally disagree, and neither of us is going to change the other's mind, but good god man, can you at least try and capitalize the first letter of the first word in a sentence? Your shit is infuriating to read.

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[–] embers 0 points 31 points (+31|-0) ago 

I've been using some form of Adblock since the initial release in 2002, and today is the first time I've turned it off for a particular site. Welcome to my whitelist, voat.co.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Same, back in the early days of the internet I never knew what an ad looked like xD I know what your thinking, I must have seen one (an AD AD) before blocking them. I cant remember what it looks like.

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[–] Grunge 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'll chip in too, turned disabled ad block for voat.co

first time I ever did that

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[–] fagnig 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Seconded, for those who want to, why refuse them.

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[–] FriedFood100 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

and both me and @PuttItOut have agreed that asking for donations is not something we want to keep doing

It seems like they just don't like asking for them, but I think they'll still accept them. I can't see why they wouldn't.

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[–] the-gerbil-in-my-bum 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

addition to this, moot refused to accept donations and look what happed to 4chan

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[–] NeedleStack 2 points 37 points (+39|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I love voat. But I'm sorry to say seeing the Google ad on the sidebar freaks me out. I know you need ads to generate revenue and I'm ok with that. But seeing Google as your first advertiser (and its name in such huge font) is uncomfortable for me. Google is notorious for privacy invasion.

Voat users are extremely protective of their privacy so I find Google as the first pick to be a bizarre choice.

Edit: I just noticed that the Google ad is no longer visible. What happened? Was their logo just a test feature?

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[–] PuttItOut 1 points 59 points (+60|-1) ago 

That was just test data. It freaked me out too!

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[–] NeedleStack 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

lol! OK then. Phew! Thank you so much for everything you do. I'm so happy to hear you guys will move to working full-time on the site. :)

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[–] fagnig 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

That was just test data.

Thats not funny. o_o

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