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[–] HoneyNutStallmans [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Specific doctrines, like those involving the right to change citizenship and the right to have a citizenship in the first place, as well as other points on the UDHR, came right out of WWII because some of those practies were happening in places like Nazi Germany.

The US will soon be like Nazi Germany.

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[–] Rottcodd 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I'm not sure that Nazi Germany is a good comparison though, simply because there was a streak of fascism that ran through Nazi Germany that I don't think can take hold in the US any more. At this point, I don't even think the government could convince the uber-patriots to put on jackboots and align themselves against their fellow citizens, since even (and arguably especially) uber-patriots hate politicians generally. Nazi Germany depended on a considerable number of people who could be convinced that following the dictates of the politicians was identical to acting for the good of the nation and the good of the people (and the politicians there had an advantage insofar as Germany really had been systematically crippled in the aftermath of WWI, so it was fertile ground for making a pitch for the good of the nation and the good of the people). I just don't think that concept could be sold widely enough in the US today to overcome the certain opposition. The divisions within the population are too many and too deep (and, somewhat ironically in this context, largely a direct result of the efforts of politicians and their cronies) and I just don't think there's a single group that could be won to the side of the government and provide sufficient support to overwhelm everyone else.

I predict it'll be more like the USSR, with the privileged few remaining in power in spite of widespread opposition simply by dint of overwhelming force of arms and an omnipresent and unconstrained police state. Or more accurately, I believe that that's the path that they'll continue to try to take. I don't think it will succeed for long, if at all.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Good point. I was just using some hyperbole and picked any despotic time and place in history, though Nazi Germany does have some relevance.

Basically they've thrown propaganda at Americans abroad by calling us "tax cheats", "money launderers", etc. when all we're doing is... living our lives.

You have all this commotion going on about tax havens, foreign bank accounts and even corporations that end up shuffling money abroad and end up paying zero taxes in the United States. Just look at the banking requirements US citizens abroad face: specifically, FATCA. They even subtley imply that they're all "FATCATS".

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[–] monkeytoe101 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This may sound tired but I believe that the sjw crowd would be ripe to follow a dictator they believed in "for the good of the people and country". They've also proven to have sway with large media outlets so I think they could overwhelm opposition. Further I don't believe they will have any trouble aligning against fellow citizens if they felt it was for the right reasons. But I'll admit my point of view is tainted.

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[–] The_Wanderer ago 

We are most certainly the New Soviet Union. What's going to be downright hysterical is seeing how Putin-controlled Russia will react to that.

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[–] Doomking_Grimlock 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Fairly common prediction. Personally, I hope the human race nukes itself into Fallout 4 before we go Full Nazi.

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[–] The_Wanderer ago 

I predict than when the time comes we will wipe ourselves out by pure accident.

The vast majority will truly never see it coming, just as the tiny minority has to stop screaming about it in time to duck and cover.