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[–] Rottcodd 1 point 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Integrity and honor would demand that the US government, if it is to consider itself a worthy one, and if it finds that people are renouncing their citizenship, would seek to correct the failures that led to a growth in renunciation rather than to punish those who might choose that course.

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[–] RojoDiablo 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Just make it a sad parting webpage survey like social networking sites.


We see that you are trying to renounce your U.S. Citizenship.

We're sorry to see you go. :(


Is there anything we can do or do better as a nation to make you change your mind?

  • Yes
  • Maybe
  • No
  • No, fuck off and die in a fire, Unkie Sam.

If you answered "Yes" or "Maybe" please explain in the box below.

If you answered "No" or "No, fuck off and die in a fire, Unkie Sam" please allow up to two weeks for the delivery of your drone strike.

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[–] Vvswiftvv17 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Have an upvoat. That was damn funny and you put a lot of effort into it.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Specific doctrines, like those involving the right to change citizenship and the right to have a citizenship in the first place, as well as other points on the UDHR, came right out of WWII because some of those practies were happening in places like Nazi Germany.

The US will soon be like Nazi Germany.

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[–] Rottcodd 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I'm not sure that Nazi Germany is a good comparison though, simply because there was a streak of fascism that ran through Nazi Germany that I don't think can take hold in the US any more. At this point, I don't even think the government could convince the uber-patriots to put on jackboots and align themselves against their fellow citizens, since even (and arguably especially) uber-patriots hate politicians generally. Nazi Germany depended on a considerable number of people who could be convinced that following the dictates of the politicians was identical to acting for the good of the nation and the good of the people (and the politicians there had an advantage insofar as Germany really had been systematically crippled in the aftermath of WWI, so it was fertile ground for making a pitch for the good of the nation and the good of the people). I just don't think that concept could be sold widely enough in the US today to overcome the certain opposition. The divisions within the population are too many and too deep (and, somewhat ironically in this context, largely a direct result of the efforts of politicians and their cronies) and I just don't think there's a single group that could be won to the side of the government and provide sufficient support to overwhelm everyone else.

I predict it'll be more like the USSR, with the privileged few remaining in power in spite of widespread opposition simply by dint of overwhelming force of arms and an omnipresent and unconstrained police state. Or more accurately, I believe that that's the path that they'll continue to try to take. I don't think it will succeed for long, if at all.

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[–] Doomking_Grimlock 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Fairly common prediction. Personally, I hope the human race nukes itself into Fallout 4 before we go Full Nazi.

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[–] The_Wanderer ago 

hysterical laughter ensues

Oh...Wait. You were serious, weren't you?

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on that one. They are entirely too delusional and corpulent to ever be so rational.

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[–] Rottcodd ago 

Of course I was serious.

The government would have us believe that it acts with integrity and honor.

Even a child could figure out that if the government has a problem with people choosing to renounce their citizenship, then that means that citizenship isn't all it's cracked up to be, which means that the government should figure out some way to make it more attractive.

Yet that's not what they do. They don't do a thing that even a child could figure out would be the best thing to do.

Yet the government still exists, and that much more surprisingly, still has people who support it. I guarantee that there are people - citizens - who even support this program.

It can only be that there are all too many people who don't figure out very simple truths - truths that even children could figure out.

So they need to be pointed out. Even though they're truths that even children could figure out.