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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 4 points 136 points (+140|-4) ago 

If this works the world will lose a major cultural tradition. They can't allow that to happen.

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[–] Ex-Redditor [S] 1 points 188 points (+189|-1) ago 

When I was young. I was taught to respect the house rules when visiting others.

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[–] snacksmoto 0 points 51 points (+51|-0) ago 

Here's a well known example: Non-Muslim women who are visiting a mosque, such as reporters or politicians, will respect their host's rules and traditions of wearing some kind of head covering. They will do this regardless of their personal beliefs, religion or lack thereof, or that it may offend them because it infringes on their personal rights.

These people are not the majority of the population of Germany, nor are they even citizens of Germany. They are visitors and as such they too should be respectful of their hosts' rules and traditions regardless of their religious preferences. Why are they offended by something they are not required to participate in? Why can't they go do their own thing and let the country that is hosting them observe their own traditions? Why is it that everyone has to be respectful of them and their traditions when visiting meanwhile they don't have to reciprocate the courtesy?

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[–] EllenPaoisamanbaby 0 points 51 points (+51|-0) ago 

When I was young a former captain in the red army said to me, "it is absurd to believe that people are created equal". I had never once questioned equality but as I had great respect for this man I allowed myself to consider the veracity of his statement.

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[–] eggnogg 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The guy who started the petition isn't visiting, he's in the Netherlands. He's just trolling and we fell for it hard.

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[–] ginx2666 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

When muslims were young, they were taught hate, ignorance, violence and entitlement.

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[–] cyberpunk 1 points 35 points (+36|-1) ago 

Do you want to get kicked out of Germany? Because that's how you get kicked out of Germany.

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[–] Fagtardicus 1 points 23 points (+24|-1) ago 

germany snapped its own backbone long ago, so i dont expect anything useful to come from this

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[–] Maskedsaturn 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I like how he has the audacity to claim that it offends every Muslim. 1 billion people are Muslims, and apparently they all want Oktoberfest gone. My mom is Muslim, but understands that you can't ask a country to change a major event. This person is much too ignorant to understand that people exist.

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[–] machina70 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

At any time did you ask yourself why a netherlands muslim would make a petition in American english to an american liberal bullshit site, about changing a german holiday.

Because muslims are all about useless american online petition sites.

Please don't breed. Start a kickstarter to have your nuts cut off, I'll link your post history and you'll be there.

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[–] TheTrigger 2 points 108 points (+110|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Fuck off, seriously. No, really: literally, fuck off.

If you think a country is worth migrating to, because you think it's better to live in rather than your own, then fucking deal with it. You take the good with the "bad" (read: what you don't like).

Don't like Oktoberfest? Fucking move back to Syria. Or pick another, Muslim, country to go to. Oh, but you don't think it's safe to live there? Tough nuts.

If I get invited to a birthday party at a vegan restaurant, I don't show up exclusively to bitch about their lack of steak. I stfu and eat some kale chips.

Muslims: stfu, they don't have to help you, you know?

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[–] airbreather02 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Don't like Oktoberfest? Fucking move back to Syria. Or pick another, Muslim, country to go to. Oh, but you don't think it's safe to live there? Tough nuts.

They aren't wanted in other Muslim countries. The (rich) Arab gulf states of Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman and Bahrain have offered zero resettlement or refuge to Syrian refugees.

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[–] TheTrigger 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

The irony is beautiful, isn't it?

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[–] Diavolo1988 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Jordan allows people in though, and it's very close to Syria as well. The thing is that Pakistanis which pretend to be Syrian in order to get into Europe, don't want to go to Jordan.

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[–] Aginor 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Looks like they're shit out of luck and have to fucking deal with it, doesn't it? The simple fact that Oktoberfest brings in 6,000,000 visitors and hundreds of millions of dollars a year will ensure it's not cancelled, but the audacity of them to try is fucking infuriating. Gotta pay for these fucking immigrants to live there somehow, so they should probably stop bitching about one of the biggest sources of Bavarian income.

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[–] victorkruger 6 points 80 points (+86|-6) ago 

Do you want to start the 4th Reich? Because this is how you start the 4th Reich...

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[–] PM_nudes_pls 0 points 31 points (+31|-0) ago 

I really do think that the muslim influx will either directly or indirectly cause something to happen which will cause people to go to war. no idea who that will be, but looking at whats happened in the middle east, nothing good.

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[–] PopeBiscuit 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Humans just don't mix well. We never have and never will. It always comes back to war. We are just too fucking good at it to quit!

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[–] RockyMountainHigh 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

"Land war in Europe within 15 years". Exactly what friends and I were discussing the other day

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[–] toobaditworks 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is basically how the crusades started.

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[–] g-j-a 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

I read that in Sterling's voice, FYI. Then Lana barbed in with a YUUUP!

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[–] RojoDiablo 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Holy Scheiße-snacks!

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[–] PopeBiscuit 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Every day I say "Don't piss off the Germans!" And nobody fucking listens to me! When they go to take over the world again I am gonna be sittin there in the trenches shouting "I TOLD YOU SO!! I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!!"

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[–] bleatingnonsense 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Oh 200 signatures? BURN THEM ALL DOWN. EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!

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[–] crazyfox 1 points 67 points (+68|-1) ago 

Dear City council of Munich,

I am writing this letter to bring to your attention something that I and many Muslims believe is unfair and requires attention. I would like to inform you that the Oktoberfest is an Intolerant and Anti-Islamic event. We tried to ignore the event, but there too many Un-Islamic acts done at the Oktoberfest. Such as alcohol consumption, public nudity etc.

We understand that the Oktoberfest is a yearly German tradition, but we, Muslims, can not tolerate this Un-Islamic event, because it offends us and all Muslims on the earth. We are requesting the immediate cancellation of the upcoming Oktoberfest event.

We also believe that the Oktoberfest might also offend all the Muslim refugees coming from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan. The cancellation of the Oktoberfest event will help refugees not to forget their Islamic history. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

Morad Almuradi

What the fuck is wrong with people...

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[–] Ex-Redditor [S] 0 points 54 points (+54|-0) ago 

Trying to turn over a tradition that has been going on since 1810 is also intolerant.

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[–] Caboose_Calloway 1 points 35 points (+36|-1) ago 

Dear Morad Almuradi

Thanks for your most helpful advice which will surely help us correct our sinful ways. We are hereby canceling the Oktoberfest and are building a mosque in its place.

We would also like to reward you for your help. Please be at the car park behind the McDonalds at midnight to attend your reward ceremony.

Sincerely Yours,

The Mayor of Munich

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[–] g-j-a 2 points 19 points (+21|-2) ago 

Dear Moron Morad, We will swing by with some consolation goats for you to fuck so the drinking and reveling will not bother you so much.

Heil Beergarten!

Da Mayor

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[–] knoxangel 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

LOL and I mean that sincerely

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[–] Ladderjack 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

we, Muslims, can not tolerate this Un-Islamic event

K. . .leave.

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[–] AssaultMonkey 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

And the response:

Dear Morad,

Get the fuck out of Germany and go back to your country and culture which is so terrible you, your family, and millions of others just fled in fear.

Sincerely,

Everyone who knows how to respect the house they're seeking refuge in.

Caveat: I'm an American, but you Germans can still use this.

[–] [deleted] 1 points 53 points (+54|-1) ago 

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[–] Heimdallr 0 points 48 points (+48|-0) ago 

You wanna see the Saxons wake up?

 

For those who haven't read it, here's "The Wrath Of The Awakened Saxon" by Rudyard Kipling.

 

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.

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[–] Spar7an 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

who were the Saxons and why are they terrifying?

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[–] Voat_a_Goat_Mamma 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

TIL that the quiet anger that builds for decades has been seen before.

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[–] pizza_mine 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

In the U.S. it is called it white flight. Self segregation. But this poem pretty much sums it up.

[–] [deleted] 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

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[–] guinness2 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

WWIII: rational and informed reason of civilization vs. fuzzy-faced-cavemen.

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[–] spookybm 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

At least this time we'll have someone solid to blame. Like legit solid if they lose the war. From what we've seen with ISIS they do not understand their weapon systems, and they think they can shoot down a helicopter with an RPK, not realizing that gravity will overcome too soon before the bullets are ineffective. Wish them luck though....they need help....

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[–] Frums 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Good thing 200 butthurt bigots are not enough to change German traditions then

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[–] pray_the_gay_away 5 points 47 points (+52|-5) ago 

Islam is a disease. Muhammad was a pedophile genocidal maniac.

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[–] MedicalMountainGoat 1 points 38 points (+39|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Whoa buddy get your facts straight, that's offensive. Pedophile genocidal maniac warlord

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[–] Sydviciouz 3 points 8 points (+11|-3) ago 

Pedophile genocidal maniac warlord dickass.

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[–] aoeu 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Can you make me a drawing of Muhammad fucking some kids while slaughtering some people?

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[–] Tea_I_Am 1 points 35 points (+36|-1) ago 

Calmly and firmly remind the objectors that they are in Germany to protect them from intolerance. And intolerance must not be tolerated. Oktoberfest cannot be canceled because it takes place in a country where people are free to do those things. You are free to refrain from participating. But that is where your rights end. You have no right to impose your morals on others. No matter the authority for those morals. That is why you are safe here in Germany. Honor the traditions that made your safety possible and do not interfere with others' choices.

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[–] Frums 5 points 0 points (+5|-5) ago 

Intolerant people will always exist, no matter how much one tries to change that. 200 fucks signing a petition is not a huge number, since it's online chances are it's not 200 Munich inhabitants, not even 200 germans.

This shit is a cool story, but it seems that there are more nazis on voat than islam fundamentalists in Munich, so maybe in fact, this is pointless.

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[–] carlip 3 points 28 points (+31|-3) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] Illithium 6 points 11 points (+17|-6) ago 

It's all irrational hate propaganda, If 200+ conservative christians signed a similar petition, this would'nt even be news.

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[–] Ex-Redditor [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They should have another petition for the 6 million visitors that visit Octoberfest each year? That might make them pull their heads in!

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[–] Frums 6 points 5 points (+11|-6) ago 

Sigh

As per usual, you have to get down too far in the comments to find a reasonable statement. This shit is pure racist propaganda, and the hate train is running full speed on voat.

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[–] Alopix 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Islam.

Isn't.

A race.

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[–] nikisunshine 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I hear ya! The petition is now closed with 486 signed. It is disappointing that so many can fall for this kind of obvious trolling.

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[–] Chrisjex 4 points 0 points (+4|-4) ago 

So leave if you want this stuff censored.

Go back to Reddit and be immersed in anti-racist propaganda.

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[–] pm_me_or 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Like others, I signed just to spread the bullshit.

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[–] eggnogg 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

You're doing God's work son. Without your help we would be hopelessly lost to the vague threat of Islam.

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