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[–] rockpyle 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Japan should not keep apologizing in the same way that white people in the United States should not feel sorry and apologize for slavery. The Emancipation Proclamation was over 150 years ago.

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[–] War_Wombat 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

What, you mean that feel-good propaganda Lincoln put out to make him appear anti-slavery to the proto-Republicans and traditionalist to the Copperheads while not actually freeing a single slave? o.O

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[–] WeekendBaker 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I hope you don't get downvoated. You are right that the emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in rebel held territory, areas that Lincoln couldn't touh yet. The union controlled New Orleans, and continued to use slaves on plantations through the war as it wasn't rebel held. Same is true of other areas and the border states.

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[–] BoringSupreez [S] 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

This was the exact right thing to say, in my opinion. Germany, the US, Australia, and any other nation that continues to compel the current generation to apologize for the actions of previous generations should take note.

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[–] Bfwilley 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Agreed enough apologizing BUT do not white wash it or gloss over it. Honer the sacrifice, the loss, regret the waste and hope for a better future.

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[–] Foul_Knave 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

can't keep apologizing

Bitch you didn't even start.

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[–] BoringSupreez [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

His generation has no obligation to ever do so.

Also he was referring to his nation as a whole, not himself in particular.

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[–] namealreadytaken 4 points -3 points (+1|-4) ago  (edited ago)

I must have missed Japan's apology; all I've ever seen is them express sadness about the war happening but they've never taken responsibility for a) Japan being aggressors or b) their atrocities against Asia, Unit 731, POWs, etc. It's always a fake pseudo apology like an intellectually dishonest murderer, they're sad that something happened but ignoring they held the knife and did the cutting.

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[–] RojoDiablo 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

White guy here. I don't apologize for slavery in the U.S. and I never will.

I didn't take African prisoners. I didn't buy and sell them and I didn't make them work in fields.

Was it a terrible thing? Absolutely. But what precisely in the blue blazing FUCK do I have to apologize for?

What little of my ancestry that was in the US at the time of slavery were little better than slaves themselves; indentured servants that thought they could make a better life in the new world and ended up picking cotton and farming corn alongside those same slaves. The rest of my ancestry hadn't even left Europe yet. So EVEN IF you could make some claim that I had a meaningful ability to apologize on behalf of my ancestors (which I can't because of course I had no control over any of it), I couldn't because none of my ancestors owned slaves in the first place.

Besides this, I don't know a single person that has personally apologized for slavery because first, they, like myself, had precisely shit-all to do with it and second, more importantly, no former slaves are living to apologize to. So any apology given, even if it happened, is entirely fucking meaningless.

JUST LIKE THIS. Abe didn't rape and pillage Chinese and Koreans. If the Chinese are so intent on the Japanese feeling bad about shit none of the ruling party had a damn thing to do with, at least they could relish the fact that they are the only country ever to have been NUKED. TWICE.

Meanwhile, is China demanding the Mongolians apologize for Khan? Just as relevant. Maybe they should be pissed at the Greeks for Alexander's conquests too?

Demanding an apology then bitching about it is ridiculous childish posturing by China and makes them look like a great bunch of sniveling babies.

Abe should tell them to burn in hell.

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[–] TheDominionOfBen 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Maybe they should be pissed at the Greeks for Alexander's conquests too?

<pedantry> Alexander was Macedonian. </pedantry>

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[–] dontnation 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I've never heard a white person -sincerely, not jokingly- apologize for slavery. It would be a dumb if they did.

Note: apology =/= acknowledging decades of segregation and socioeconomic disenfranchisement.

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