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[–] AOU 1 point 10 points (+11|-1) ago  (edited ago)

At the end of the day, they are still pedophile misogynist sex slave master warlord worshippers disagreeing each others over an ideology invented by a pedophile misogynist sex slave master warlord.

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[–] Proppa 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You yourself acknowledge that those who don't follow the ISIS methodology are considered apostates. There are quite a few who would be considered apostates. Christianity underwent their own transformation even though the Bible endorses things like killing disobedient children, enslaving foreigners, and treating women like subservient property. Just because it is explicitly stated in the Quran that doesn't mean it can't be subverted into the modern era the exact same way the Bible was. There are actually predominately Muslim countries that are quite civilized and developed.

I'm not shilling for them, I am just pointing out that it is possible and has already occurred in some places. Unsurprisingly it tends to correlate with education.

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[–] Aaaron 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

There are actually predominately Muslim countries that are quite civilized and developed

Developed, yes.

Civilized? Depends on your definition. All Muslim countries are backassward when it comes to laws. Even in a very moderate Muslim country like Malaysia, you have to convert if you marry a muslim and if a muslim has a kid they must raise it with the mosque or get the child taken away.

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[–] SecularPenguinist 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Agreed. Although if Islam is to go through a reformation it needs to start somewhere.

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[–] AOU 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

There can't be a reformation.

Islam is designed to explicitly follow the Quran and ISIS does it best.

There's no such thing as moderate or radical muslims.

There are muslims who follow it as accurately as they can, and some who don't and according to the Quran are considered as apostates.