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[–] AnthraxAlex 0 points 34 points (+34|-0) ago 

Seems to be more about obscuring the heading of the vessel rather than attempting to make it undetectable.

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[–] Hayashimo [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Yep.

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[–] Naught405 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

that's why you use the torpedo lead indicator between volleys

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[–] Womb_Raider 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Can you describe this in more detail? Sounds really interesting.

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[–] jhaluska 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Knowing their location and heading, and your location and heading and you can plot intercepts. If you don't know what direction their going you can easily miss if you're far away.

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[–] Cadster 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

not really, you cant tell its direction or speed with dazzle camo.

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[–] piratse 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

"Hey Bob, is that a war ship?" "Nah man, it's striped, war ships are grey."

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[–] Hayashimo [S] 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The idea of dazzle camouflage was to make it more difficult for an enemy ship, particularly an enemy submarine looking through a periscope, to accurately determine things like ship size, class, and heading.

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[–] piratse 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I was just fucking around. That camo makes it look super confusing b when determining what exactly you're looking at.

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[–] MaxVieuxlieu 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

That makes sense. How far away do you normally shoot torpedoes from? Is it far enough away that not knowing the heading could cause you to miss? Or is it more about intelligence gathering?

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[–] The_Laughing_Storm 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

LOL That would have been much better if your username was pirate.

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[–] NeedleStack 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Great sub, subscribed.

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[–] Hayashimo [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Thanks! I hope I can make it grow and take it somewhere. There's a lot of interesting stuff out there!

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[–] NeedleStack 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I don't know much about the subject but I'll help contribute from time to time. Gotta support niche subs!

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[–] shitpostfacto1 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

WW I submarines carried less than two dozen rorpedoes. They went on patrols that could last two months or more. When they found a target, they had to make each shot count. They visually estimated the target's speed and direction and combined it with their own known course and speed as a paper plot on a maneuvering board to get the course they needed to be on when launching a torpedo. You can see this once in awhile in in documentary footage from WWII. The guy observing through the periscope is giving his estimates to the guy with what looks like a big clipboard. If a target was valuable enough, a spread of torpedos would be fired, but they only had so many and that had to be factored in. The illustration at the top shows really well how confusing it would be to determine that ship's heading. Zig-zagging was also mainly about screwing up the submarine's target solution.

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[–] pdeee 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Reminds me of a story about zebras. Scientists were confused about zebra stripes as they dont seem to be good camouflage. So a group goes to africa to study zebra. They notice they cant tell one zebra from another to figure out what they are doing. So they dart on one and mark it with paint. next thing they notice is the lions eat the marked zebra. They then mark another and the same thing happens. Thats when they realized how zebra stripes work. It is camo against the heard not the surrounding environment.

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[–] pby1000 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Interesting. I never heard that before.

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[–] The_Laughing_Storm 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What a bunch of assholes. "Apparently, painting the zebra makes them targets for lions. Lets kill one more to be sure!". Though now that I say this I am realizing it is a sacrifice necessary for science. You always have to reproduce the experiment.

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[–] slwsnowman40 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's actually really good science.

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[–] TheBuddha 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Is this sub for any specific class of warship, or all classes? Littoral ships used in war? Submarines?

(I sometimes come across interesting things in this area, and have been putting them in v/Navy which is pretty dead. I'd rather they go into an active sub.)

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[–] Hayashimo [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Anything goes as long as it's related to warships of some kind -- from old 14th century carracks to the most modern DDGs. Even things like theory and doctrine are fine. If it's warships, I won't remove it. The rest is left to the community to decide.

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[–] TheBuddha 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Duly noted. I'll subscribe and add stuff when I come across it.

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[–] kevdude 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Awesome. Cool sub topic and cool moderation philosophy. Subbed!

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[–] bourbonexpert 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I don’t get it, but think this would be cool looking framed and in my man cave

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[–] 12213857 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Would be helpful to see the last picture w/o dazzle as well.

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