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The "its just a fetus" argument doesn't stand up too well. In the future, a fetus, even this size, could potentially be transplanted to a artificial womb or a surrogate mother. We could be looking back to this era in horror in 50 years just like we do at how we treated the "insane" with labotomies and torture. I believe women should have the right to terminate (hopefully someday transfer) a pregnancy, miscarriages happen all the time because of poor health and we don't call that murder, even though many are caused by poor lifestyle choices such as drugs. What I don't believe in is the profiteering off of this sector of medicine. People are getting fucking rich off of this. Regulation won't work because the government is so currupt and already in on it. From what I've researched, there are already vast stemcell farms in china using vats to grow massive amounts of human cells for research. Why can't we use fetus cells that have already been harvested and clone it, then make a law that aborted fetuses have to be cremated or buried. If a fetus or child dies naturally the parents can choose to donate them to science, although that's sometimes a fucking racket also.
Edit: I meant grow the cells, not cloning fetuses
Most people who donate plasma for $$ often don't realize most of it goes to companies that test drugs, cosmetics, stuff that we used to test on animals, and not to hospitals for people. I would not be surprised if the supply is also being tapped for stem cells. Point I'm trying to make is, how many more "samples" are needed? The Chinese have the tech and don't have the same laws we do that prevent them from mass producing it. It's the current laws in the US that were made against stem cell research that is driving this market. What these "harvesters" are doing is already becoming obsolete, but its still legal and cheaper than changing the laws and setting up large labs like they have done in Europe and China. Your clip has already been passed around the conservative talk circut in the last 48 hours and its meant to stir up anger and emotion to drive an agenda. Some of that agenda I agree with, some I do not. WTF is a place where I come to forget politics and watch clips of maggots crawling out of a dudes dick. Watchpeopledie would love this better or not idk.
Yeah, way to guilt trip people. It's still dead (just because it's moving, doesn't mean it's alive). It's also (judging by the scissors next to it), not even that developed. Also, while were are on the topic, if people want to get abortions (in general, not just in certain cases), they should completely be allowed to.
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[–] Derpologist_PHDerp 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
The "its just a fetus" argument doesn't stand up too well. In the future, a fetus, even this size, could potentially be transplanted to a artificial womb or a surrogate mother. We could be looking back to this era in horror in 50 years just like we do at how we treated the "insane" with labotomies and torture. I believe women should have the right to terminate (hopefully someday transfer) a pregnancy, miscarriages happen all the time because of poor health and we don't call that murder, even though many are caused by poor lifestyle choices such as drugs. What I don't believe in is the profiteering off of this sector of medicine. People are getting fucking rich off of this. Regulation won't work because the government is so currupt and already in on it. From what I've researched, there are already vast stemcell farms in china using vats to grow massive amounts of human cells for research. Why can't we use fetus cells that have already been harvested and clone it, then make a law that aborted fetuses have to be cremated or buried. If a fetus or child dies naturally the parents can choose to donate them to science, although that's sometimes a fucking racket also.
Edit: I meant grow the cells, not cloning fetuses
[–] HitlerIsBlack [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Also adults have stem cells too.
[–] Derpologist_PHDerp 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Most people who donate plasma for $$ often don't realize most of it goes to companies that test drugs, cosmetics, stuff that we used to test on animals, and not to hospitals for people. I would not be surprised if the supply is also being tapped for stem cells. Point I'm trying to make is, how many more "samples" are needed? The Chinese have the tech and don't have the same laws we do that prevent them from mass producing it. It's the current laws in the US that were made against stem cell research that is driving this market. What these "harvesters" are doing is already becoming obsolete, but its still legal and cheaper than changing the laws and setting up large labs like they have done in Europe and China. Your clip has already been passed around the conservative talk circut in the last 48 hours and its meant to stir up anger and emotion to drive an agenda. Some of that agenda I agree with, some I do not. WTF is a place where I come to forget politics and watch clips of maggots crawling out of a dudes dick. Watchpeopledie would love this better or not idk.
[–] Sadistic_Bastard 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
However not nearly as many as aborted fetuses.
[–] Iforgotmy_other_acct 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
The pro-life movement couldn't care less about abortions. Pro-life = anti-birth control.
[–] HitlerIsBlack [S] ago
I'm more for forced sterilization , preferably by removing the genitals entirely.
[–] HitlerIsBlack [S] ago
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzMAycMMXp8&t=5m57s
[–] Sadistic_Bastard 2 points 0 points 2 points (+2|-2) ago (edited ago)
Yeah, way to guilt trip people.
It's still dead (just because it's moving, doesn't mean it's alive). It's also (judging by the scissors next to it), not even that developed. Also, while were are on the topic, if people want to get abortions (in general, not just in certain cases), they should completely be allowed to./soapbox over
Edit: Corrected, it is apparently alive
[–] HitlerIsBlack [S] 2 points 0 points 2 points (+2|-2) ago (edited ago)
Says the guy who fantasizes about fucking children and actually it's alive, they keep it alive so the organs are better quality.
[–] Sadistic_Bastard 2 points -1 points 1 point (+1|-2) ago
Yeah, because I totally said that. Also, you really can't even stick to the fucking topic, can you?
[–] HitlerIsBlack [S] 2 points -1 points 1 point (+1|-2) ago
Could you imagine if this was a kitten?
[–] escapefromredditbay 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago (edited ago)
...you pro-life guilt tripping fuck.
i mean, quality WTF, but so is heart surgery for all intents and purposes.
[–] HitlerIsBlack [S] 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Why does it bother you so much? Is it because you know it's wrong?