[–] Trigglypuff 38 points 153 points (+191|-38) ago 

Thank you.

Sorry for being a cunt.

[–] TheBookWasBetter 1 points 18 points (+19|-1) ago 

Look at everyone being nice to each other! I must be on the wrong voat!

[–] Acen 1 points 18 points (+19|-1) ago 

[–] PeaceSeeker 11 points 16 points (+27|-11) ago 

Welcome back Trig.

[–] Trigglypuff 17 points -1 points (+16|-17) ago 

Thank you:)

[–] drstrangegov 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Now kith

[–] Wolfspider 4 points 78 points (+82|-4) ago 

The old adage "if it works don't fix it" then. As an old user I just have become immune to drama around here, and just post what I want and ignore the shit. Fuck it. Don't care.

[–] Steelerfish 1 points 26 points (+27|-1) ago 

Totally agree with you.

In my opinion, Half of the fun here is because of truly free speech, people feel free to say whatever they want- regardless of how fucking stupid it makes them look. People should feel free to make asses of themselves, it is entertaining.

I could fucking care less, I don’t get offended. If I don’t like it, fuck it and move on. That’s why we aren’t sheep.

[–] Black_Phillip 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

This is exactly how I feel. Sometimes I go back and forth telling people off but I never truly hate the person, it's more cathartic to truly say what I think and move on. A rare thing in any public space these days.

[–] GlassSmith 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago  (edited ago)

That isn't going to work for very long when this place is flooded with shills. You forget that there are paid shills who's entire job it is to subvert any free speech or non anti-white platform (JIDF, share-blue, etc) and they can spend large amounts of time on here until they get in to mod positions and then start banning all dissent. This is exactly how every other free speech platform was destroyed, if vote manipulation and shills aren't banned this place will turn in to reddit before long.

Being passive against an active enemy always results in loss.

[–] ArchmageMordenkainen 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Paid shills stick out like a sore thumb and are easy to ignore or downvoat into oblivion. If they're causing a big problem somewhere, individual subverse mods can ban them. While there are some examples of platforms that have been taken down by shill infiltrators, there are far more that became cancer because of rampant shill paranoia shutting down all discussion in the name of stopping shills. This happened to 4chan and to certain boards on 8chan, such as /pol/ before kampfy was kicked out.

[–] Doglegwarrior 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Why cant we just shine a light on the demons? The jdif are truly demons to me any one fighting against free speech are demons? Naming them and exposing their evil ways should help with the problem.

[–] Seventh_Jim 4 points 0 points (+4|-4) ago 

We'll deal with them as a community. Can't fuck every horse every day.

[–] Libertyisgood 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

I like you.

You and me.

We're gonna be buddies.

[–] lord_nougat 3 points 23 points (+26|-3) ago 

I like you.

You and me.

Homosexuality!

[–] thebassdude 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I reckon so.

[–] cthulian_axioms 5 points 71 points (+76|-5) ago 

The mark of a truly great leader is the ability to admit mistakes with candor and grace. A toast! To Putt! Bona salute!

[–] CameraCode0 1 points 28 points (+29|-1) ago 

That's probably one of Putt's greatest attributes, he's humble and not prideful. Every man has many flaws, but that can make up for many of them.

[–] cthulian_axioms 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Humility is the single best criterion in deciding whether or not a person should be given the honor of leadership.

@BushChuck, there's another axiom for you.

[–] BushChuck 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Could you please share a Cthulian Axiom with me?

[–] cthulian_axioms 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Sure!

Only Great God CTHULHU is allowed to treat others in a different way than HE would want to be treated.

[–] daskapitalist 3 points 39 points (+42|-3) ago 

It takes a lot to self-reflect, admit faults, and correct them. Well done.

[–] crazy_eyes 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Yes that is what a man does

[–] lord_nougat 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

And today, it is also what a Putt does!

[–] Rotteuxx 6 points 5 points (+11|-6) ago 

I'll be the first to admit I have the ability to be a fucking asshole... in this instance though it allowed me to provoke what I was fishing for & it allowed me to expose hypocrisy around alt accounts and false victimhood.

Sometimes negativity pays off.

[–] Decidueye 3 points 30 points (+33|-3) ago 

Categorizing users between builders and destroyers is more destructive to your own site than anyone you could label as a destroyer. Between the warnings and bans of users without alts or brigading for vote manipulation and the downvote disclosure, you unintentionally created a chilling effect that made users self censor. A rush job in building results in shoddy craftsmanship that requires much more work to fix than deliberate labor that anticipates potential issues ahead.

[–] CheeseboogerHimself 6 points 9 points (+15|-6) ago 

Yeah that whole thing made many question whether to contribute anymore. Its a bizarre thing. Who the hell wants to be forced to align with srayzie and company of zionists?

[–] TheBuddha 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Let's be fair... It's not like you've contributed a lot lately! ;-)

[–] Caesarkid1 3 points 8 points (+11|-3) ago 

What are you? Some kind a fag or somethin?

[–] Hysterical 21 points 29 points (+50|-21) ago 

Well I think I'm done then. Seems to me that yet another Soapbox narrative push / brigade has been successful and I've spent the last three and a bit years watching them attempt to burn this place. I guess they win.

There's a difference between the wild west and simply allowing the kikes to subvert the place. There's a big fucking difference.

[–] PeaceSeeker 7 points 25 points (+32|-7) ago 

Looks like you already deleted (not looking for a discussion?) but you have to understand that it wasn't any one cabal or group who complained about these recent bans. Users all across the board were concerned, mostly due to the apparently undefined (at least not publicly) lines within which the bans could fall.

This doesn't mean nothing will be done about vote manipulation, which remains a serious issue. It just means that we need to come together to determine what can be done.

[–] Helbrecht 1 points 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

I mean, the username said it all

[–] Laurentius_the_pyro 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago  (edited ago)

This doesn't mean nothing will be done about vote manipulation, which remains a serious issue. It just means that we need to come together to determine what can be done.

For starters, publicly defining what exactly voat manipulation is before you start banning dozens of users, and warning hundreds more.

For most people they think "voat manipulation" is using bots to upvoat themselves or downvoat another, but according to what little info putt released about his script, it apparently checks based on a significantly different definition.

Numerous users (including myself) were banned or warned despite never having any alts, let alone using them for manipulation, apparently numerous other activities could set the script off, things like following a link and then voating in the thread would be flagged as "voat manipulation" but a script doesn't exactly understand context, following a link to a cool thread someone sent you and then downvoting some guy spamming offtopic retard shit could easily get flagged, then even though you never broke any listed rules, nor acted in bad faith you get the banhammer.

What is worse is that once you're banned you have zero recourse to try and clear your name, you can't post inquiring on your ban, you can't PM Putt for clarification, nothing. Unless of course you had an alt to do so (because voat is invite only right now), So hilariously enough the users who didn't have alts were the ones hit hardest by the ban, and the ones with the least recourse. I found a work around to PM Putt (responding to a previous PM exchange seemed to work) and inquire as to which rule I supposedly broke, and to ask him to double check why I was banned but he just blew me off and stopped responding.

Many of the users who were wrongfully lumped in with the voat manipulators and incorrectly banned have been badmouthed for the last 3 days without any possibility of defending themselves.

Even now that Putt has apologized, and unbanned me I still have a lot less interest in voat than before, when something this happens people lose faith in the platform, including me. I was welcomed with open arms at poal.co (despite all the shit voaters say about it poal is pretty cool, not at all the leftist shithole people made it out to be, I said 'nigger' to an admin and he laughed it off), I may still stop by here from time to time but I plan on continuing to make poal my main website of choice.

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[–] Cynabuns 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I am a Builder. What are you?

[–] Kalergi 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

Yeah, I'm ok with getting rid of brigaders. Organic voting works without those gaming the system.

[–] JackHoff 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I concur

[–] heygeorge 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago 

simply allowing the kikes to subvert the place

Appears we have lost a zero-submission leech. I’m sure rebbit won’t mind having you back

[–] fujin 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I'm pretty sure the person running the account is an old fag, I'm trying to remember the name that looked similar from some other old fag poster... Hysterics maybe?

At any rate it's as @peaceseeker said, people as a whole we're complaining about these bans. At least @puttitout is humble enough to take a step back and reevaluate the situation and communicate it with all of us instead of behind the closed doors like almost every other similarly fashioned site does.

[–] Rotteuxx 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

lul

[–] Peacethroughpower 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I am triggered

[–] zyklon_b 5 points -2 points (+3|-5) ago 

i have they home address from the "top secret" css and will be going there to "take care of buisness" mossad style

[–] qualityusername 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I agree. We can’t go full open borders and expect anything good to happen.

[–] bourbonexpert 3 points 25 points (+28|-3) ago 

Don’t be a Nigger

Don’t be a faggot

Jews did 9/11

[–] Canada_is_gay 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Pretty sure this nigger ^ has queer sex under the menorah on the reg.

[–] followthemoney 8 points 24 points (+32|-8) ago 

Just know that most outrage is fake, unwarranted or both.

[–] CameraCode0 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

Voat drama is really gay, even if it's warranted. I agree that protecting Voat is really important and some people have different ideas on what's good for Voat, but it's just the internet at the end of the day. Voat is cool because people don't take things too seriously.

[–] LionElTrump 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

it's fun drama though, I usually only check it out when it is stickied

[–] Hand_of_Node 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm not a big fan of receiving unfounded accusations and threats from admins.

[–] RageAgainstTheAmish 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Its also hard to run a website while juggling migrant cocks and gargling multicultural cum.

[–] Sosacms 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

gasp!

Ya, that's fair

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