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[–] fusir 5 points 52 points (+57|-5) ago 

But don't you see the pattern. "I think it's good he got the hammer based on what kind of person he is." is the very premise of reddit censorship.

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[–] Mortifera 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago  (edited ago)

The same thing that's currently happening on Minds. Over there they claim to be a free speech platform yet are blanket censoring entire accounts behind an explicit tag if they don't like what you're posting, whether what you're posting is explicit or not.

[–] Decidueye 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

Aged was someone who purposely tested the boundaries of the spam rule and our dedication to free speech. Yeah, he was a faggot puckered pleased by notifications of triggered autists screeching at his degeneracy. But at the same time none of his posts served as flagrant violations of the site's rules. Censorship always starts by targeting undesirables, and here on Voat we damn well know the slippery slope shouldn't be regarded as fallacy. We need concise clarity on spam rules so others are not subjected to a broad ban hammer, hence why this sticky is up.

[–] eggsaladsandwich 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

You and I had a brief back-and-forth (a respectful one) in another thread yesterday where I leaned toward supporting the ban. After thinking about it some more and reading your and others' arguments on the subject, I think I've changed my mind. I think you're right and I was wrong. While I personally don't want that shit on v/gaming, I find myself uncomfortable with the potential consequences of venturing down that path.

What I saw in Aged's behaviour was a deliberate antagonization of a community with content specifically and carefully chosen to juuust stay on this side of the line, while pissing off as many people as possible. Like a shithead kid harassing a tied up dog, staying just inches further away than the leash will allow the dog to reach.

However. Having said that, I still have to concede that I'd rather allow fucktards to be fucktards and piss everyone off than to start the long march toward arbitrary totalitarianism.

This case was a test and I think we failed. I failed. But you were there with principles and reasonable arguments to support them, instead of the usual "kys kike faggot pedo shill!" And I appreciate it. So just wanted to say thanks, and thought you might like to know that you actually changed a mind. I like you, frenemy. You're alright.

[–] Killeratlarge 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

we left our borders open

[–] Laurentius_the_pyro 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

Isn't this exactly the same way censorship started on reddit?

First it was the loli, then hating fat people, then it was "violent extremism" then it was anything to do with right-wing views, now it's even the slightest stepping out of line gets a ban.

Reddit, Digg, Twitter every single site that gives a inch to censorship eventually becomes fully controlled.

[–] fusir 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Which is why aged is here. He's actually one of the original users. He's a part of original voat culture. We have all these people calling for censorship that don't get the culture at all.

Voat also used to be politically diverse. These people don't get that trying to beat everyone into the same round hole is reddit culture. These are people who fully adopted reddit culture but lost their game for control and ended up here. Most of the more recent migrations were from places with cancer mods. They love the idea of cancer mods controlling conversation. They were just incompatible with the particular admins at reddit, but not at odds with cancer mod culture.

[–] antiliberalsociety 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Yup. It's the same pattern. Random posts deplorable content en masse to piss off the community. Community calls for a ban based on transgressions. Freedom lovers protest, deplorable content instensifies almost as if to provoke the ban. Deplorable poster (and any similar content from that moment forward) gets banned.

Other subs/content called into question of why they/it wasn't banned- no clear answer as to why until further need to expand censorship arises - they too get banned then "masses" are pleased.

No one calls out @hecho though. That will be the expansion. Funny how this happens right after Voat was "sent an angel" huh?

[–] BlackManOnVoat 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

I keep seeing this same argument from many different people. I also saw this same argument from many different people on other sites when certain users were doing something similar.

I've also seen this same argument from a famous banned member from the early days of Voat (he who shall not be named)

[–] RedditSpy 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Exactly what I was thinking.

[–] AmaleksHairyAss 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

All my this. I don't care if a spammer is banned for spamming. I deeply care if the real reason is that the spammed material itself was objectionable.