[–] MrPim 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Then why are you here? And since Reddit does not welcome many of us, there can be no universal consensus.

[–] WispOtheWill 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Nothing ever gets done if you look for universal consensus

[–] derram 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago