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[–] MrPim 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Then why are you here? And since Reddit does not welcome many of us, there can be no universal consensus.

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[–] WispOtheWill 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Nothing ever gets done if you look for universal consensus

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[–] derram 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago