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[–] Steebee 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Holy shit, what an episode

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[–] takshis 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I love how Frank is like well if I can't have my shit, no one can have my shit.

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[–] HelloCthulhu 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

So, Paul goes down into a disused subway tunnel through a door in a building and down a lot of stairs. He has a running firefight and afterwards winds up climbing a random ladder to maybe another part of the same building (maybe a different one, but let's say the same). He comes out a different door that is locked (from the outside?) that he had to bust out of. And waiting behind this random locked door, in the blind spot no less, is Burris. This door that opens into a recessed stairwell (so, covering this door gives you no line of sight to any other exit). And Paul, the trained soldier, doesn't "check six" reflexively. Wow, Burris sure got lucky.

There are so many other ways this could have worked. Such as staking out his car and ambushing him there.

It ruined what was a great scene for me.

Even if Holloway came to in time to spot Paul climbing the ladder and with enough wits to call on his no-signal cell phone, what could he say except "he got away/he's coming out"? How would he know where?

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[–] gatordontplaythatsht [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'm going to make a plot hole post after the season ending. This is one of many things I noticed this season that felt rushed and wrong to me. Here's a hint about another major hole, why the fuck didn't any of them go to IA or anyone after the shoot out episode, they had to know they were set up. They kept on and the setup aspect wasn't even brought up until the most recent episode, which was just bad story telling imho. I do enjoy this season, but man the 8 episode format seemed to really clash with the story this season.

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[–] HelloCthulhu 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Another thing that bugged me about this episode (not sure you could call it a plot hole); we had a speech from Zombie Rick Springfield about the weird predilections of the Chessani Patriarchs (so strange that they drove his wife mad), which are maybe linked to the sex orgies and/or the death cabin, yet here we see the mayor rambling drunkenly to a random cocktail waitress and crudely asking her to "hum his balls". That doesn't seem to fit together.

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[–] takshis 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Ugh yes! Why would he not check when they told him earlier he was surrounded?!

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[–] WorldWideSpiderWeb 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Aw man! You're right! Damn plot holes. I have yet to watch it again a second time, so I'll pay close attention to that part when I do.

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[–] mjmoore 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Great episode. I need to watch it again tonight. My guesses at the secretary, set photographer, and Burris being involved were all correct. I am just trying to piece together in what capacity. Basic guesses: Leonard the set photographer stole the car from the movie production studio, and set it on fire very close to the last minute because he only learned of it being a key facet to the investigation when the detectives showed up asking questions. His sister was there the same day. He is the man in the white mask. Burris is the man in the bird mask. He was involved in the diamond heist. He may or may not have killed Caspere (Leonard is about as equally likely a suspect), but he did drop off Caspere's body in a public location, and he used nonlethal buckshot on Ray in order to secure the hidden camera hard drive in Caspere's fuckpad. A police lieutenant would know about highway camera's picking up a license plate, and he took a deliberately scenic route in that first episode. Caspere's body was presented in a way as if to provoke investigation. Everything was going great for Burris until Woodrugh surmised that he was in on the diamond heist in 1992. Caspere was driven and staged in an incredibly obvious way in order to put law enforcement agencies on the path of whoever murdered him. Having an inside track on the investigation, Burris could go after Laura and Leonard once he learned they were involved in killing Caspere. I think the ninety minute season finale is going to feature Burris in pursuit of those two, and the remaining main characters going after both Burris and the grown up siblings he is after.

What I cannot even bother guessing about: who killed the black attorney woman and why (other than vague awareness that she was still after Vinci's power structure as a whole), what the hell Catalyst is doing (why would suits risk pissing off a hardened gangster), or whether the whole blackmail plot really had as much to do with Caspere's death as it clearly did with Tasha's slice up in the cabin.

I think there are two murderers with two different motives, two different relationships with Caspere, and both wear masks. Next week the little priests take off their masks. Mea culpa: I was not even remotely close to figuring out what was going on with Stan's death.

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[–] mjmoore 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The other possibility that requires quite a bit less mental gymnastics in terms of figuring out who had the car when, who knew where the fuckpad was, and who would have learned about the hard drive's location by following Ray: Burris is helping the siblings in order to atone for what happened in 1992. He may have been an accessory to the murder of the parents, but not specifically guilty for their deaths. While this is perhaps more plausible in terms of logistics, I'll stick with the above post as my official bet simply because a pair of mice getting chased by a cat, in turn being chased by a pack of wolves, is much more interesting. :-)

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[–] gatordontplaythatsht [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I knew Taylor Kitsch was going to die, just had a feeling. Fuck.

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[–] WorldWideSpiderWeb 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

That was awesome watching Frank burn down his clubs.

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[–] WorldWideSpiderWeb 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Story of my life.

/jk

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[–] WorldWideSpiderWeb 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think that's a good theory. Was that girl's name "Laura"? Was she that little red headed secretary?

Caveat: I just woke up.

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[–] WorldWideSpiderWeb 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Wow. People are dropping left and right.

Thank god! :-p

Who was driving the car that Burris got into at the end? And are we all thinking he's The CrowMan? Because I'm thinking he's The CrowMan.

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[–] WorldWideSpiderWeb 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

RIP, poor Paul. That was a great scene in the tunnels. I don't think we'll ever really find out what happened in Afghanistan.

So the Cataslyst Group hired all of Paul's buds from that Black Mountain incident as "security"? And his lover drugged him and had him over for a torrid night so that they'd have blackmail material? And his Special Ops commander was also his CHIPs boss?

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[–] takshis 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You could see it coming where Paul was going to die, but you were hoping so hard he wouldn't!

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[–] crazyshinydiamond 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

People have been saying Ani could be the Birdwoman... In her flashback it shows a crow flying for a split second. I don't really think she's the Birdman, but I do think she has some shady connections to all of this.

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[–] WorldWideSpiderWeb 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What? Really? Huh. I never even considered that for a minute.

Minute's up! Nah, no way.

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[–] gatordontplaythatsht [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

What an insane episode from start to finish, can't wait to see how it all ends.

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