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[–] ThenThatMouth 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Can we sticky the HECK out of this?! It's a good intro to this subverse. A little background, I lived a degenerate life for a long time, made so many mistakes. Things changed in 2015 and by late 2016, I was looking for a change. Found Empress in another place posting things I totally agreed with and haven't left since. I followed her where I could. This place is like home now, for as long as it will last.

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[–] CrimsonTide10 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I lived a degenerate lifestyle for a long while. Raised by a feminist mother. I come here for tips on how to be a better wife to my husband who has stuck with me through all of my toughest hours. This sub verse is inspirational to me. I’m nowhere near where I want to be, but I am far from where I came from.

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[–] ThenThatMouth 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'm glad you are here. You broke through the programming. Follow the book recommendations and advice here (within reason). It's a great place! Welcome to the desert of the real!

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[–] Empress [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

<3 I'll go ahead and sticky it.

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[–] ForTheUltimate 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

lol how old where you when you looking for a change?

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[–] ThenThatMouth 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Too old.

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[–] BlackManOnVoat 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

There is also no larping as a good girl. You have to be honest and upfront about your sexual history so a man can determine if he wants that risk or not

This is a hard pill to swallow, as much as men who know what's up will be honest and upfront about unmarried women over a certain age.

That still doesn't mean that there isn't hope. Of course the odds that women in this category will NOT end up with Prince Harry (. . .ok bad example but you know what I mean) and live in some castle somewhere, women who've made mistakes and been led astray can at least still find a decent, stable man.

But to do this a lot of ego needs to be shed. This is hard because in our current era, women have been worshipped, and women as a whole continue to be worshipped individually from early age until their looks begin to fade. So they are used to getting treated a certain way.

If these single ladies realize the lie and it's not too late biologically (late 30's) it can still be done.

It will be difficult.

Women get the equivalent biologically of a Ferrari (with the same maintenence and longevity upkeep issues)from the start.

It's just that because of feminist indoctrination, they are taught all the wrong things to do with that Ferrari. and by the time it becomes obsolete. . .they never get to use it the way it was intended. (this analogy is all over the place I know.)

But, the car still runs, and still can look nice. And can still attract a driver.

Everyone makes mistakes. some mistakes are harder to come back from than others, some mistakes, some sins consume people forever.

If you're here(on v/trad not voat lol), then you're lucky enough to at least see the mistakes and try to work your way out of it.

And that's what you need to do; Work. Just like everyone else on the planet. No exceptions. Since Adam ate the apple and was cursed with the knowledge of good and evil, he knew that he had to work.

So that's what you'll need to do.

Also, you may not make it. You may fail. Welcome to Earth. Men have to work or they'll simple die. They have to work even harder to outrun nature and secure a slice of happiness in life. Some men don't work, and they die. ALL men who don't work, die. Others work hard and mostly succeed, but some, despite all the work they put in, still fail. You have to trudge on despite the possibility of failure. There really is no other choice.

All I can do is wish you luck.

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[–] Empress [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you for writing this.

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[–] 16956854? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I love this place

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[–] 1Sorry_SOB 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Beautifully said. Beats the heck out of Netflix and Chill(ed white whine)

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[–] Empress [S] 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

I hate to see young women waste their pretty years chasing some feminist dream that doesn't exist. The only thing feminism leads to is despair.

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[–] Palindromedan 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

And confusion. So much time trying to figure out why nothing works. Why men don’t value or cherish you. Why they aren’t romantic towards you. Why you’re so unhappy.

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[–] AbjectSubstance 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Not ripping on the trad life or anything but are you sure it's better than chilled white wine? Like, I get that it's our last stand against degeneracy and the extinction of our race and all, but white wine's pretty great. Have you had a glass?

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[–] Empress [S] 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Feminists may start off enjoying the distinction between a minerally Pinot Grigio and a fruitier French Pinot Gris during their younger years but they always end up with cheap, oaky boxed Chardonnay. It's a sad fate I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

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[–] BlackManOnVoat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Being pedantic is what turns good men off. Stop doing this.

Successful men do not do this, and they do not tolerate women who do this either. No joke.

That will get you shit canned imediately,

Also they do not like other men who do this either, and eventually stop giving them opportunities.

You KNOW EXACTLY what the person meant when they used the analogy. You being a pedant over it is honestly showing your contempt.

This is not good. You need to reign that in.

. . .Or don't, it's your life after all. But if you fail in your life, this is one of the reasons why.

Good Luck

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[–] Ledurblaka 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Very nice @empress

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[–] Socks_are_okay 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I feel I should chime in seeing my recent diagnosis of having borderline personality disorder. It makes you feel that no role or personality suits you and can make it extremely hard fitting in with trad women because you simply don't feel like it's you; much like everything, basically. Because you constantly feel empty inside and try to fill it with whatever in hopes that "next time is the charm".

You can get out of the downward spiral that is borderline and find your place being a trad woman. My parents messed me up by never validating me as a child and I know I'm not the only one. I'm also not going to be the only one to get a grip on my borderline, and end up being a trad woman after all. I may have my own specific style but that's okay.

Borderlines will always be on the border - but it doesn't keep you necessarily from living a proper life. Only if you let it. There is nothing that will make you feel as whole as being a trad wife.

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[–] Elbower_of_Quants 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

Ask Empress if she had children and how many and for how long...? And did she breast feed said children?

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[–] BlackManOnVoat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Elbower of whatever:

Do you have children?

A husband? A wife?

Are you happy in your life? or do you want something more?

What are you doing to get to that place in your life?

What MORE could you be doing that you aren't?

What will your life look like in five years if you keep avoiding doing the things you need to do?

These are more important questions to ask of yourself instead of the ones you just asked.