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Sorry if I implied you're close minded. I'm trying not to sound dismissive.i was simply saying that I find it hard to find things we both agree on.
The occult definitely caters to the left hand path (satanism). But there are many paths. Most kabbalists worship one god, YHWH. Taoists don't worship anything, but seek advice from the great Tao. Hermeticist really just do whatever they want. A belief in God is not required.
Satan was also just a random angel who was put in charge of enticing Job to stray from God. He wasn't evil, he was doing the will of God (angels don't have free will). Lucifer is another entity entirely.
I do agree there is a sort of evil in this world, but I feel it is more a lack of love than a force itself.
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i was simply saying that I find it hard to find things we both agree on.
True. You are still looking to find who you are and where you stand. I'm a bit further along in that process. That's why we bump heads a lot. At least we still speak on occasion. When that stops, it's proof we are both close minded.
Most kabbalists worship one god, YHWH.
They worship the devil.
Satan was also just a random angel who was put in charge of enticing Job to stray from God. He wasn't evil, he was doing the will of God (angels don't have free will). Lucifer is another entity entirely.
They were the same. An angel who thought he was on the same level as God and thought he could do whatever he wanted. Sound familiar? God then kicked him out of Heaven and he's been salty about it ever since.
I do agree there is a sort of evil in this world, but I feel it is more a lack of love than a force itself.
I don't even believe in satan. People who are evil and don't want to take responsibly for that it comes out of themselves, use the devil as a scapegoat.
I don't even believe in satan. People who are evil and don't want to take responsibly for that it comes out of themselves, use the devil as a scapegoat.
I think this is 100% true. But I'm confused about you not believing in Satan. Where would you say you identify religiously, if at all?
And you're still asserting that kabbalists worship Satan, which is unequivocally false. This is not an opinion. Almost all of their rituals include an invocation of YHWH. And it's based off the Torah, so only one god. You can feel free to do your own research here and try to prove they worship Satan. If you could find evidence, I would be open to it.
I'm a bit further along in that process. That's why we bump heads a lot. At least we still speak on occasion. When that stops, it's proof we are both close minded.
I do agree. I think our personal progress is a hard thing to measure and since we speak only on occasion, I feel it's a bit egotistic for you to aeert you're further. That being said, I did have to unblock you to continue this conversation. It was a shitty thing for me to do. We should continue speaking. How else will we widen our reality?
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Sorry if I implied you're close minded. I'm trying not to sound dismissive.i was simply saying that I find it hard to find things we both agree on.
The occult definitely caters to the left hand path (satanism). But there are many paths. Most kabbalists worship one god, YHWH. Taoists don't worship anything, but seek advice from the great Tao. Hermeticist really just do whatever they want. A belief in God is not required.
Satan was also just a random angel who was put in charge of enticing Job to stray from God. He wasn't evil, he was doing the will of God (angels don't have free will). Lucifer is another entity entirely.
I do agree there is a sort of evil in this world, but I feel it is more a lack of love than a force itself.
[–] smokratez 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
True. You are still looking to find who you are and where you stand. I'm a bit further along in that process. That's why we bump heads a lot. At least we still speak on occasion. When that stops, it's proof we are both close minded.
They worship the devil.
They were the same. An angel who thought he was on the same level as God and thought he could do whatever he wanted. Sound familiar? God then kicked him out of Heaven and he's been salty about it ever since.
I don't even believe in satan. People who are evil and don't want to take responsibly for that it comes out of themselves, use the devil as a scapegoat.
[–] middle_path ago
I think this is 100% true. But I'm confused about you not believing in Satan. Where would you say you identify religiously, if at all?
And you're still asserting that kabbalists worship Satan, which is unequivocally false. This is not an opinion. Almost all of their rituals include an invocation of YHWH. And it's based off the Torah, so only one god. You can feel free to do your own research here and try to prove they worship Satan. If you could find evidence, I would be open to it.
I do agree. I think our personal progress is a hard thing to measure and since we speak only on occasion, I feel it's a bit egotistic for you to aeert you're further. That being said, I did have to unblock you to continue this conversation. It was a shitty thing for me to do. We should continue speaking. How else will we widen our reality?