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[–] PepeLovesPandas 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

This was an excellent post. I am always amazed at the number of people and the number of times I have had similar discussions. The common misconception/ argument is "But we live in a Democracy!" To which my reply is "No, we live in a constitutional Republic" Immediately followed by that Deer in the headlights look.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

it has a lot to do with the degradation of our education system, here's a 8th grade exam in the US from 1912 how many contemporary college students do you think could pass this?

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[–] SkyeVeritas 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Your link seems to be non-functioning. Perhaps you could re-do it; I'd love to see it.

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[–] Y_U_NOrecycle 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I wantz to see

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[–] magaveli 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

one of the things that always stood out in Star Trek is the children learning segments, like children having calculus etc. its not that far fetched,

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[–] FedUp1971 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Hattip to Common Core. The goal of dumbing down primary education succeeded - unfortunately, colleges and universities are not much better.

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[–] ElvisNawlins 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

So true!

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[–] 4TheRepublic 3 points 12 points (+15|-3) ago 

Back when I was "red-pilling" in the 90s, I had a couple of friends in law school. They were arguing about 'democracy' one night. After sharing some enlightening thoughts on our Republic (which they both found quite surprising), I gave them an assignment: Ask about 40 or 50 of your fellow students this question: What form of government do we have in the US?

NOBODY said "constitutional republic"; almost everyone said "democracy."

The ignorance runs deep. We have years of work ahead of us.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

that's because many groups have been working against us for years

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[–] PepeLovesPandas 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

As stated in the wikileaks Podesta emails “And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry,” (https://yournewswire.com/wikileaks-clinton-insiders-want-an-unaware-compliant-citizenry/)

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[–] 4TheRepublic 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

Yes. Good and evil have been at it for quite a while...so have light and dark.

Best to you and yours. WWG1WGA

4TheRepublic

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[–] Waiyu_Dudat 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

But they are dumb. To them, "minority" is brown people and because Trump got elected, the brown people are hurt.

Paine and Locke are sketchy compared to Plato in my opinion here. The philosophy of liberty and equality is what drove the French Revolution. Tradition cannot be upheld in constant revolution, and a focus on liberty gets the populous constantly searching for oppression and inequalities. The only tradition of liberty of that of anti-tradition. Upset the power structure to change the face of society, fueled by banking money.

I love a republic, but it's so essential that only land owning males from the ethnic native population can vote. There are no examples that I can think of where a republic held off the slow trickle towards democracy.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I'm referring to a minority of the electorate, democrat politicians and reporters have brought this up a long the lines of "the tyranny of the minority" and "the flaws of the electoral college" because they're dumb I don't have any examples on hand but feel free to look it up, I can also guarantee from the blue state I live in that their constituents/readers are absorbing what's being presented to them with this. The most disadvantaged minority will always be the individual citizen and it's his rights that the constitution ensures.

Plato is also a favorite of mine but I gave Paine top billing on that list as he's American and Locke was a favorite of the founding fathers. We don't need to be overly loyal to tradition but some things shouldn't change.

The selection criteria is to a degree arbitrary, land ownership is a good choice because you have a tangible stake in the future of the country this is also why the draft is good for voting registration. other means could be people with children, we could adjust for age, and there's also IQ, but they each have issues the point is that suffrage has gone way too far and it gives rise to low voter turn out and one issue voters. personally I wouldn't mind having a multistage representative system wherein for example each county elects a representation to vote for electors by region of state to go to the electoral college, one actual legitimate problem with the electoral college system is that conservatives in california and liberal in Texas as examples are basically having their voices ignored because of the way states are winner take all

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[–] SkyeVeritas 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Suffrage: I agree with what you said and even have reservations about women voting (and I am female). If we cannot bring back some sanity to our elections/voting process, I see it as a way to totally use what was originally set up in this country against us and destroy any semblance of a republic.

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[–] 4TheRepublic 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Indeed. The process will always proceed.

I'd respectfully suggest, though, that the franchise need not be limited to land owning males from the ethnic native population. The influences of "banking money," coupled with ever-flailing economy and the noise of perpetual unrest (so-called socialism) have nearly stripped all 'citizens' of the effectiveness of their votes.

See you on the other side. Best to you and yours.

4TheRepublic

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[–] Liberty1111 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Please help me get some upvoted so I canpost here. I am new here and a fellow patriot. thanks

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[–] ElvisNawlins 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Welcome! I am a recent subscriber as well.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

go back to reddit you trash, begging is disgraceful

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[–] ChemicalStory 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Coming from France, I can't agree more about the madness of the democracy, and I'm glad to learn about the USA way of politic, very interesting. Thanks!

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

oof france, I was hoping le pen would win that election and take you guys out of the EU, america owes france a lot given their assistance to us during the revolutionary war but you're in a pretty rough spot right now, hang in there

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[–] ChemicalStory 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Hi!

The problem with Le pen (father and daughter) is they are more politicians than patriots (at least from my point of view, can be wrong)

The real patriots now are really not politicians, won't play the politic game (election/democracy), and will just ask the people to wake up and take action :)

Here they are: https://federationmondiale.org/

(sorry, it's French only for now...)

But I really hope and feel Trump (and Q) will make the biggest impact on the world when finally "draining the swamp"

:)

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[–] DebFul10 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

This is what perplexes me the most...the reason for our Constitutional Republic is for this reason..that the majority are not always right,,so we have to represent the others that have a voice and clear reasons to speak and be heard. I am lost in the the fact that so many people do not understand this fact.You must have common speak on all sides of a premise. If you don't you lose all ability to find a place to discourse, rebuttal and understanding. We all are different..That makes no one group right...we must be logical and fair.All people must be heard and an understanding reached.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

it's not about which group is right, everyone has a right to speak

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[–] ElvisNawlins 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yes, good point.

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[–] SkyeVeritas 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

An understanding may be reached but ALWAYS in accordance with what is constitutionally correct. We might want a lot of things but it is not healthy for our country to go against our foundational principles.....which has been done repeatedly over many many years.

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[–] blagjesus 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

https://web.archive.org/web/20180128170255/https://8ch.net/pol/res/11173104.html

this is the redstick project and its all about loading up usb drive with JQ redpills and leaving them around collage campuses

https://8ch.net/redstick/catalog.html

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[–] Shiftworker1976 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I agree and like the verbage

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[–] Cajun_Robear 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

This has always driven me crazy. But it helps to subtly let you know who you are dealing with in polite conversation.

However, it is especially irritating when a politician gets in front of the camera and spouts the sanctity of our "democracy".

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

a lot of politicians and reporters say a lot of things that irk me

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