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[–] FlashVirus ago 

The idea that America is some great land of free speech where we all share principles and dialogue with one another is pure mythology. America has a long history of rejecting 'Merikan valoos' when push came to shove. Loyalists were chased out of the colonies and their press buildings were burned to the ground. Dissidents during the Civil War were rounded up and thrown into jail and similar anti-dissident behavior reared its head again during WW1 with Socialists being imprisoned. As one Monarchist intellectual I know of calls it, "The illusion of inclusion. As long as people think they're apart of the system in some small, small, small way then they won't riot and participate in seditious acts.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream [S] ago 

the founding fathers created america for free white people of good character as a country of ideals. No one is or at least no one should be saying America is prefect but we want it to be perfect, we want to strive for the freedoms and self-evident rights enshrined in the constitution. The constitution doesn't describe the kind of country we are or always have been it describes the kind of country we want to strive for

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[–] FlashVirus 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

It had its run, now it's over. If one looks at American history and the various traditionalist movements that had popped up you'll see one thing: failure. Were Nativists able to restrict Non-Protestant non-Anglo immigration? No. They were gobbled up into Lincoln's Republican Party and had waning influence. Did the 2nd Klan prevent what they saw a degenerate urbanized America? No. Did the Dixiecrats and segregation types in the mid-20th century accomplish their goals? No. It's a loooong series of getting pushed down. One can draw parallels with right-wing trads and the left-wing labour movement as well. Unions kept rising up and got a little bit of leeway but eventually just got its ass kicked and pushed back down into oblivion.

Point being: you can fight for what you believe but at the end of the day the system is designed to protect itself and ensure its own safety. The Constitution was designed to prevent radical elements from seizing the State. Due to this, you'll never get an Alt-Right government. Even a moderate Right-wing government will be extreme at this point. The Left gradually moved us to a place of "open borders" and the best we can do (electorally) is to just reduce the amount of immigrants.