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[–] 1468791? 0 points 44 points (+44|-0) ago 

TL:DR men are as likely to have unwanted sex with women as women are to have unwanted sex with men, but the widely used rape statistics only count penetration, so none of the men having unwanted sex with women are counted as rape.

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[–] RedSocks157 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

If you counted prison rape statistics, men are actually raped more than women.

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[–] Detente01 [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

thanks for the summary i always have trouble making good summaries that give the main points without being longwinded

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[–] Punk_As_Pingu 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Did it say anything about the statistics also being skewed by the decreased likelihood of men to report being raped or FTP?

(I only managed the first few paragraphs)

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[–] 1486700? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

From what I read, this wasn't about when males were penetrated by males, it was all about male-female sex, so, his argument is just that by definition females cannot rape males because females cannot penetrate males, even though both have sex that they didn't want, in about equal amounts.

When you say decreased likelihood of men to report being raped, are you referring to male on male, or female on male? I don't think he asked about the first statistic, but for the second statistic he avoided the rape taboo by using the term "uwanted sex" As I understand it, both males and females are hesitant to report being raped by males penetrating them, and I would be interested to have a link if there were some measure about which were more or less likely to report it. Most rapes (male and female being penetrated by a male) go unreported,

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[–] LiveBeef 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

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[–] Speculater 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Seriously, I didn't know if this was a prison report or a sports commentary.

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[–] turtle_comet 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Jesus that's fucked up. I've always know male victims don't get any attention and that it happened but I didn't know we had redefined the word.

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[–] Detente01 [S] 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

the first section of article is satire

then the rest explains the satire and shows that the original study that showed 1in 4 women would be raped by men also held true for men being raped by women but of course they couldnt use this stat and so reclassified rape as being penetrated ie an activity mainly by male rapists wheras female rapists mainly force to penetrate so not rape

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[–] 1468717? 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

The satire part runs so long (over 10 screens?) that the vast majority of readers will assume he's just crazy and stop reading. He could have easily made his point without being so grossly long winded in the satire part.

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[–] Detente01 [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

true very true and if i was the author i probably wouldve skipped the satire in this case because satire works best when its funny and this satire fell flat

but the rest of the article makes up for the poor satire with a great point

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[–] CommonSense 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Listen. I love women. I think they are amazing in a way that only women can be. Having said that, things have gotten so much worse in this country since they got the right to vote. Women are still fighting for equality that they not only already have, but abuse in a way that men never would. Men don't get custody of their children. We have no say in abortion. We are sent to prison (and are punished more harshly) more for the same crimes. Nobody does anything on behalf of men. Women get it all. And not only do they get it all, but they completely confused the system so that rape is conviction even when their was no rape.

A teenage girl can fuck the same aged teenage guy, then say she isn't happy about it, and that guy's life is ruined forever. At the very same time, a woman can cut off a man's penis and throw it in the garbage disposal, and other women fucking laugh about it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDjUjhexTQk

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[–] Detente01 [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

absolutely agreed

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[–] piratebatman 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Common Sense is lost on the world man.

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[–] anticlutch 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Hi. This is why I video and audio record every private encounter with a female that I'm not 100% certain I can trust. It's fun living in a one party consent state for recording, as it turns out I consented to that recording.

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[–] BigAl265 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

The whole "1 in 4" nonsense has been thoroughly debunked countless times, yet feminists and our media keep parroting this nonsense as if it were fact. They took the definition of rape and made it so broad that literally any sexual act could be classified as rape. Ever had sex drunk? That's rape. Ever regretted having sex with someone? That's rape. Ever had sex with your partner when you weren't in the mood? Yep, that's rape too. No, I'm not kidding, that's how ridiculous the standard is and why they had to change it to mean penetration. They screwed themselves (pun totally intended) with their own data, so they had to change the parameters to fit the agenda.

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[–] cointelpro_shill 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's more popular as a debunked statistic than anything else. The POTUS caught a lot of shit for using it a while back (though it was just for sexual assault, not rape). Nobody important uses it anymore.

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[–] anticlutch 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Would you mind translating your title into English please?

The 1 in 4 study was done at IIRC two universities. It was self reported. It was not rape. It was sexual assault. The self reporting meant the person reporting made the decision whether something was assault or not. Actual numbers are insanely more rare.

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[–] Detente01 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

absolutely but the point was that even by their wrong standards as to what rape is men would have qualified as being raped by women just as often as women were raped by men, but they couldnt use this statistic, so redefined rape as happening only to women so combined with their faulty definition of rape and eliminating men from the statistic they arrived at their propaganda result

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[–] anticlutch 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'm not questioning any part of that point. That's correct for literally every single stat about rape I've seen. A bigger issue in that vein is when boys / men try and tell about rape it is never listed in the first place. The result: women rape at least as much as men do, probably significantly more if it were treated the same.

The issue I pointed out was that the self reporting left the defining up to the person reporting to the "study". I also take issue with the words: study, research, system and any other word that implies merit through simple use being used here.

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[–] Ancient_Unknown 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You're the worst at titles.

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