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[–]rumathlete_10 points
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When my grandpa enlisted in WWII it wasnt just because our nation was attacked it was because he lost 6 friends at pearl harbor and wanted revenge and joined the navy for the fact he would be fighting the japs. He was a kind and loving man to everyone, all religions, and all races, except the Japaneses.
My guess would be something more along the lines of conscientious objector. They mention religious reasoning as well.
But the article makes it sound like you can instead vow to help out in a non combative role. Which to me seems pretty legit. Not everyone is for for combat, but messengers, orderly's and transport (just to name a few) are all equally valuable roles in a situation that this oath has been envisioned for.
Here's the full text of the oath, for the curious:
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
Besides, the oath posted above by the previous poster is not the complete version either - missing is the part where one renounces hereditary and/or nobility titles.
Source: I took the modified version of the oath (but I shall bear arms when requested, no question about that);
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[–] rumathlete_1 0 points 9 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago (edited ago)
When my grandpa enlisted in WWII it wasnt just because our nation was attacked it was because he lost 6 friends at pearl harbor and wanted revenge and joined the navy for the fact he would be fighting the japs. He was a kind and loving man to everyone, all religions, and all races, except the Japaneses.
[–] DerpExpress 1 point 12 points 13 points (+13|-1) ago
Why did they remove that?
[–] theburntsausage 5 points 6 points 11 points (+11|-5) ago
probly because they cannot be trusted.
[–] scrotums [S] 0 points 9 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago
But they're trusted enough to become citizens. Which means they can bear arms.
They're just no longer to swear that they will.
[–] forgetmyname 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
something something naturalized citizens no longer have the right to bear arms.
[–] dv1155 3 points 4 points 7 points (+7|-3) ago
Because the left, who rabidly hates this country, is hoping they'll take up arms against this nation.
[–] Alias_Unknown 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
My guess would be something more along the lines of conscientious objector. They mention religious reasoning as well.
But the article makes it sound like you can instead vow to help out in a non combative role. Which to me seems pretty legit. Not everyone is for for combat, but messengers, orderly's and transport (just to name a few) are all equally valuable roles in a situation that this oath has been envisioned for.
[–] Iforgotmy_other_acct 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
Here's the full text of the oath, for the curious:
[–] Mad_Dog91 1 point 7 points 8 points (+8|-1) ago
Power to the people
[–] Jarmey 7 points 5 points 12 points (+12|-7) ago
That is a positive development. Good news for once.
[–] [deleted] 0 points 12 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago
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[–] AlphaWookie 3 points -3 points 0 points (+0|-3) ago
It is a faggot that likes smelling farts. Being anti-Americanis all they do.
[–] ScientiaPotentia 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
I suppose that would be offensive to the new US citizen that hate Americans and want to destroy America.
[–] RedSocks157 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
That's bullshit. I still have to register for the fucking draft, and these people don't even have to make a non-binding promise in their Oath?
[–] newoldwave 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago
If they won't defend the country then they don't deserve to be here.