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In the 80's my mother had trouble finding a pediatrician who would support her decision to breast feed me. Now the difficulty is finding one who supports my decision not to vaccinate my children. I wonder what nonsense they'll be pushing by the time my kids are in this spot. I'm sure it will support some corrupt industry whatever it is.
My five year old broke his arm this last weekend. I fully expected the atrocious treatment reserved for those who choose to not vaccinate, but the nurse didn't even miss a beat when I said no to vaccination history. Maybe there are some who are beginning to be aware of the negative side of vaccines. Or maybe she just doesn't care.
Formula costs so much money. It is inconvenient to prepare. Buying and cleaning all the bottles is as hassle. If you do not prepare it just right it can kill an infant. It's usually soy packed and otherwise unhealthy.
Yes. Calves get what's called colostrum from their mothers if allowed to drink from her right after birth.
Factory-raised calves are often separated from their mothers and don't receive the colostrum and subsequently don't develop as good immunization and can get sick from various ailments.
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That's not true. Most, if not all, dairy farms will milk the colostrum from the cow and feed it to the calf. A calf without colostrum is a death sentence. Everyone in farming knows that. Not only that, they have colostrum replacer mix made from, ACTUAL COLOSTRUM, on the off chance that they can't get the mother to provide the colostrum. They even list the immunities that the cow had when she was milked for the colostrum.
Dairies don't remove the calves to prevent them from drinking colostrum, the calves will get it later, farmers remove dairy calves from dairy cows because dairy udders are fragile and a calf wrecking its mother's udder means no more milk. When milking time comes they will bring out a separate individual milker for that cow, milk the colostrum, and proceed to feed it to the calf during the feeding schedule that farm goes by.
The article you referenced is from a beef producers site which is an entirely different setup. Beef producers will leave the calf on the mother for around 6-8 months depending on the operation. Udders on beef cattle are immensely different than udders on dairy cattle. Beef cattle in general are much healthier body wise due to many factors.
Source: Am a beef producer with my own herd of cattle.
Other source: I help my extended family on their dairy farm from time to time.
I knew about that right after they're born, but I wonder if they're left to nurse their mothers for a month last say and the calf starts getting sick a week after being born, will the cow start producing colostrum again?
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[–] CowWithBeef 1 point 18 points 19 points (+19|-1) ago
In the 80's my mother had trouble finding a pediatrician who would support her decision to breast feed me. Now the difficulty is finding one who supports my decision not to vaccinate my children. I wonder what nonsense they'll be pushing by the time my kids are in this spot. I'm sure it will support some corrupt industry whatever it is.
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[–] Warnos44 1 point 4 points 5 points (+5|-1) ago
My five year old broke his arm this last weekend. I fully expected the atrocious treatment reserved for those who choose to not vaccinate, but the nurse didn't even miss a beat when I said no to vaccination history. Maybe there are some who are beginning to be aware of the negative side of vaccines. Or maybe she just doesn't care.
[–] Seventh_Jim 8 points 10 points 18 points (+18|-8) ago (edited ago)
Cool article about natural feedback mechanisms
Nevermind
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[–] Seventh_Jim 0 points 20 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago
Oh. I am a nigger; I misread that.
[–] 23550772? 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
Now I wonder why people still feed their babies garbage formula.
[–] dundundunnnnn 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
Breastfeeding hurts, tore my nips up. Every single child. I wish it wasn't this way. I pump and use raw goat milk. Formula is poison.
[–] RemyLeBeaux 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Yeah, it makes no sense.
Formula costs so much money. It is inconvenient to prepare. Buying and cleaning all the bottles is as hassle. If you do not prepare it just right it can kill an infant. It's usually soy packed and otherwise unhealthy.
[–] OneOfTheBoys 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Kissing and smelling the baby help this processes.
[–] NiggadermCQ 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I have nipples, could you milk me?
[–] Lagmonster 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Why the fuck do you have six nipples?
[–] DillHoleBagHands 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Two for feeding, four for "feeding"
[–] NiggadermCQ 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Who doesn't have 6 nipples?
[–] ReformedFeminist 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
This is amazing! Thanks for sharing.
[–] WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
That's pretty interesting. I wonder if livestock does that too
[–] holofan4life 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Yes. Calves get what's called colostrum from their mothers if allowed to drink from her right after birth.
Factory-raised calves are often separated from their mothers and don't receive the colostrum and subsequently don't develop as good immunization and can get sick from various ailments.
https://www.beefmagazine.com/health/vets-opinion/colostrum-important-in-calf-health-0201
[–] jonny1313 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
That's not true. Most, if not all, dairy farms will milk the colostrum from the cow and feed it to the calf. A calf without colostrum is a death sentence. Everyone in farming knows that. Not only that, they have colostrum replacer mix made from, ACTUAL COLOSTRUM, on the off chance that they can't get the mother to provide the colostrum. They even list the immunities that the cow had when she was milked for the colostrum.
Dairies don't remove the calves to prevent them from drinking colostrum, the calves will get it later, farmers remove dairy calves from dairy cows because dairy udders are fragile and a calf wrecking its mother's udder means no more milk. When milking time comes they will bring out a separate individual milker for that cow, milk the colostrum, and proceed to feed it to the calf during the feeding schedule that farm goes by.
The article you referenced is from a beef producers site which is an entirely different setup. Beef producers will leave the calf on the mother for around 6-8 months depending on the operation. Udders on beef cattle are immensely different than udders on dairy cattle. Beef cattle in general are much healthier body wise due to many factors.
Source: Am a beef producer with my own herd of cattle.
Other source: I help my extended family on their dairy farm from time to time.
[–] WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI ago (edited ago)
I knew about that right after they're born, but I wonder if they're left to nurse their mothers for a month last say and the calf starts getting sick a week after being born, will the cow start producing colostrum again?
[–] Meme_Factory_1776 ago
Nope humans are the only animals that works with.
[–] holofan4life 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
You're incorrect.
https://beef.unl.edu/beefwatch/importance-colostrum-newborn-calf
[–] Ectropy 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
The beauty of nature.
[–] Guy_Justsome 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Boobies. What can't they do?
[–] MacKuGoo 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Without nipples breasts would be pointless.