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[–] d_r0ck 2 points 39 points (+41|-2) ago 

Does it work the same way for downvoats? If so, that's kind of a bad model...

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[–] humanmilkfarm 3 points 51 points (+54|-3) ago 

It's a sad day when people are so afraid of getting downvotes that they censure themselves.

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[–] TheBeesTrees 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

It's kind of like that already though. It takes a certain amount of CCP to achieve full functionality. Not that I'm really against it, but it might hinder a bit of expression...

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[–] CaptainPieCart 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

People do that in real life all the time though, it's the same as thinking before you speak.. Which is an important practice.

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[–] ThatOneArabGuy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think it will allow more discussion though, think about it, goat A wants to post a comment but is afraid of the downvoats, but because he has the option of removing his comment, he might post it in the first place to begin with

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[–] C_IsForCookie 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think most people do, and have to. Especially on this site where when a net amount of votes hits -50 your account gets deactivated (from what I'm hearing).

I think, and I agree with your thinking as this is unfortunate, that we don't get as many real opinions here as we should because those people are afraid to speak their minds due to written backlash. I've been guilty many of times.

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[–] discowoodchuck 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I can confirm it does.

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[–] lasercow 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago  (edited ago)

should be one-directional methinks

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[–] TheGuyWithFace 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Why do you say that? It's different, sure, but if we're thinking about CCP and SCP as representations of how much you've contributed, why would you get points (in either direction) for content that no longer exists?

To add on to that, I feel like on reddit, points were less about how much you contributed and more of a prize - thus the use of the word Karma. I also think that that contributed to the endless circlejerking in some comment sections, since upvotes were given more as an award to people for stating something you agreed with. Here, I feel like upvoating is more intended to mark a comment as interesting/relevant, even if it's not something you agree with. By that definition, (in theory) a negative score is more indicative of something irrelevant to a sub or otherwise not a good contribution. In that case incentivizing users to remove downvoated posts/comments is a good thing, a way of automatically trimming the unwanted submissions out.

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[–] d_r0ck 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

encourage cleanup

This is a great side effect and made me change my mind. Thanks!

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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 3 points 16 points (+19|-3) ago  (edited ago)

S' a good idea. You delete it, it's gone, you don't get jack shit from it.

E: btw /u/jk611 is going to cut you

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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Well, if you walk around in a gimp suit people are going to look at you funny.

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[–] fuckyeahgoats 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Just give it time.

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[–] bannana 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

but this gives trolls a free reign to be asshats then delete the comment and get their points back.

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[–] InnocentBystander 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I am glad it removes the upvoats. I often read old posts, and it is irritating when there are a bunch of gaps on the threads.

But I really wish it did not remove downvoats. It also allows trolls to say anything they want, but still be able to restore their CCP. That makes it more difficult to spot them.

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[–] GeneralBoobington 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

yup! /v/news deleted a post i submitted that had like 90 upvoats... all gone. it was deleted cos it was a picture of an article. needless to say i don't fux with that stupid sub anymore.

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[–] SumthingMildlyClever 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I just realized this. Deleted a link submission that only had 5 upvoats for a spelling error...poof 5 upvoats gone.

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[–] lasercow 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

what do you use instead?

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[–] GeneralBoobington 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

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[–] joysynthesis 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Yeah dude. I made the same mistake and now I'm practically back to square one. Same thing for submissions.

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[–] Tipman79 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

I've never understood the rationale behind deleting your comments. It's like someone only stands by there convictions if people approve. I spent 2 years on the other site and never deleted a single comment. And I made some phenomenally stupid comments while drinking etc.. but I didn't go back and delete them. I acknowledge what I said and if I was wrong, so be it. The attitude of deleting everything that doesn't fit with the current narrative or popular opinion is the very heart of the problems at the other site.

No offense to anyone, but if you're bothered enough by a previous comment to go back and delete it, maybe you should spend more time considering what to say in the first place.

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[–] pitapityparty 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What if it's something you no longer stand by? That doesn't necessarily have anything to do with popular opinion, just personal evolution. I've spent a lot of time mulling over what to write, only to regret it months or years later. I guess, even given that, you could still make a case for keeping your old comments, but the way you've characterized comment deletion doesn't show the whole picture.

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[–] Tipman79 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

What if it's something you no longer stand by?

Then having gone through that evolution of self, it's not only a record of how you got to who you are, it's a record of how you previously felt. If it's morally acceptable to go back and delete records of what you've previously stated, then it should be ok for politicians to do the same right? What if in 10 years time Donald Trump changes his opinion on Mexicans? Would it be ok for news outlets and the like to delete the records of his previously held beliefs?

Yeah I know, that's a fairly extreme example, but the idea of changing a record of what you've said because you don't believe it anymore is an idea that's inherenty vulnerable to abuse.

Edit: A word.

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[–] jaceame [S] 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

It's nothing political, or opinionated, just dislike clutter and the jokes hold no value the day after the page was made as no one goes there. It's not regret it is just pointless to keep around after a certain point.

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[–] Tipman79 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

it is just pointless to keep around after a certain point.

Again, I don't understand. What is it cluttering up? If you're deleting it, what was the point of posting it in the first place? I mean, you're taking the time to go and delete it, there must be a reason?

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[–] InnocentBystander 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I very much agree with you but there is one valid reason for it that I have heard. To protect your identity. After posting for a few years it is amazing what someone can learn about you, even if you think you have not included identifying information.

Still, I wish they didn't.

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[–] MrPim 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'd like an option to make comment history private. It would make it a little harder for people to go thru your history and look for that info.

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[–] IveSeenYouNakid 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

brb deleting all negative karma comments.

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