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[–] Apathy 2 points 52 points (+54|-2) ago 

But then it would lack diversity.

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[–] chronicdiscord 2 points 28 points (+30|-2) ago 

We must celebrate it.

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[–] mudcatca 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

apparently we do, with shootings, robberies, & murders as part of the festivities

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[–] mig2k 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I love the diverse knock out games they play

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[–] meltingpotofhambone 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Gotta play with different races than just their own to be DIVERSE!

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[–] jewsbadnews 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Diversity is good! Diversity is our strength! Diversity is what makes the middle east so peaceful! -Anti racist Hitler

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[–] CobraStallone 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I'm thinking it would still be the most or at least one of the most, diverse cities in the world. There's like, people from all nationalities living in New York.

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[–] Apathy 3 points 9 points (+12|-3) ago 

Um, sir, I don't think you understand the meaning of diversity. Diversity means black + woman. Now you can only use one of those criteria, but if you want to achieve maximum diversity, you should go for both.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 2 points 34 points (+36|-2) ago  (edited ago)

If this were a fair world, these are the things BLM would be screaming about through megaphones.

Hey race-baiting BLM leaders, guess what? White people don't want to live in a world of violence just as much as you don't! If you're serious about making our country safer, that's great! You should be yelling about these statistics and analyzing what's wrong in black culture. Campaign to fix your broken families. Rally to inform young people about the dangers of celebrating ignorance and stupidity. Reverse your demonization of "acting white" and try having your children pick up a book instead of being truant and acting all tough. Learn the dangers of drug addiction and incarceration, and get some basic education (your smartphone can easily access this) about how to manage your finances and avoid predatory loans, single-parent families, welfare cycles, and other things that will keep you trapped in poverty. Stop the glorification of crime, gang, and thug culture in rap and other media you consume. You should see these ridiculous forms of capitalist predation as mindless entertainment, or, ideally, as an embarrassment--that's how the educated world perceives it (when we even have time to think about it).

Blaming the police for the violence that results from poverty/broken culture is like smacking a venomous snake, then getting angry that the EMTs need to stick a needle into you to deliver lifesaving medicine. They're only sticking you with needles because you put yourself in that situation, just like cops are only killing dozens of gun-waving thugs because your culture created them. Michael Brown strong-armed a clerk, robbed a convenience store, strutted down the street, and fought with a cop. Trayvon Martin had liver damage consistent with doing anger-inducing "lean" (which he loved to brag about on Facebook), and was observed bashing Zimmerman's head against the pavement at the moment of his fully justified death.

Figure out why your culture produces so many of these criminals and fix it, or at least ask for help in doing so.

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[–] heygeorge 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

Would you kindly provide links to your Brown and Martin claims? I think your post could be an oft prescribed 'red pill' if you drop those facts with citation.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago  (edited ago)

You shouldn't have been downvoted for asking for sources. Here they are:

Mike Brown robbing store: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2z5-H8NSGA

Officer's explanation of the encounter with Brown: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/11/25/why-darren-wilson-said-he-killed-michael-brown/

Witnesses describe the same thing regarding the argument and Brown reaching into the car: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/11/major-contradictions-in-eyewitness-accounts-of-michael-browns-death/383157/

Martin, his boasted use of "lean," the toxicology report about his liver, and the common effects of the drug: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/

Forensic evidence supports Zimmerman's testimony, eyewitness statements, and police testimony about Martin being on top of Zimmerman and bashing his head against the pavement: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/09/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin--marijuana/2501293/

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[–] cleveridiot 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

Facts are racist...

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[–] newoldwave 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

fats are facts. It;s called the truth

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[–] ANGRY_Hippopotamus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Maybe that's why fats get so much hate

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[–] Holonomic 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Especially when they come from a white person.

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[–] HamsterSlayer 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

is "whitesplaining" a term yet? I feel like it's just a matter of time.

...which makes me depressed a little bit.

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[–] mamwad 11 points 18 points (+29|-11) ago 

Terrible interpretation of statistics. The truth is that if blacks were gone, a white underclass would control the black markets that cause most of the violent crime. Supply and demand. As long as drugs are illegal, people will control the market with violence.

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[–] shakin_my_head 4 points 13 points (+17|-4) ago 

Why couldn't whites control it now? That's the dumbest assumption I've read all day although I haven't made it to reddit yet. There is still hope for you.

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[–] mamwad 6 points 2 points (+8|-6) ago 

Well, whites actually do control much of the drug trade. But, people living in the ghettos have less options and they tend to do most of the grunt work.

It's not that stupid to suggest that black markets create violent crime.

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[–] 0fsgivin 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

White appalachia is just as poor and still has less crime. Meth is everywhere man and honestly Meth is worse than crack. Probably not heroin though to be fair heroin withdrawal is still king from what I understand.

But I believe poor whites are catching up with poor blacks on Opoid use as well. May have already done so. Hey feel free to double check all this. Kinda hard to find reputable sources because its not studied often ya know?

Regardless there are some pretty drug addicted poor white communities. And they still commit less crime than their black counterparts.

Now don't get me wrong ending vice laws would help out A LOT of people. I mean huge fucking deal if you actually got rid of all drug and prostitution laws besides age limits and taxes. But wether it makes you uncomfortable or not. Facts is facts even poor white people commit less crime.

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[–] ArcherMcTaco 8 points 9 points (+17|-8) ago 

Assuming the white population that would replace the black population was not low income or not committing crime at all.

Common voat, Im aware of racial differences but this is absurdity. You are litterally posing bullshit stats for a made up scenerio, to back confirmation bias, to back a narrative that is more reactionary than a reflex test. Whats next, made up stats on how if jews didnt live in newyork the crisis of 2007 wouldnt of happened and everyone would live in a peachy utopia.

And no, i don't give a shit if racists are on voat, but keep in in your fucking subverse. Seriously this is the most retarded til ive ever seen

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[–] Rotteuxx [S] 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Face it, the mainstream black american youth culture glorifies thug life & violence as a way to earn respect & status. Black crime stats are there to back up this argument whether you want to say it's only an accidental correlation or else.

Caucasians don't resort to violence at the same rate as blacks & that is a fact. So even if the numbers aren't ajusted to vector in the void left by the theoretical removal of the black population in NYC, it still represents a serious problem in the black culture.

You assume a lot from a single post. I'm not racist, but I'm highly aware of the importance of social & cultural influences in the upbringing of a human being.

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[–] ArcherMcTaco 2 points 10 points (+12|-2) ago 

My issue isn't racial differences, my issue is statistical data that makes assumptions.

I honestly couldn't give two shits if you are racist (all though you seem way to defensive about a point I don't care about), but if you are gonna walk the line do what /pol/ does and back it up with facts.

This is the laziest stat i've seen. You honestly believe the difference between caucasian and black is 97% when committing violent crime?

The stat does not take in to effect non criminal blacks either. You have no argument that there would be a drop due to racial issues, but the improvement you derive in the headline just takes the black crime stat and assumes it becomes eradicated and drops to zero. Are you saying no one takes up the space that blacks take up in NY? Are you saying 0% of the whites who would replace that black population would commit 0% crime?

This is lazy at best. It's sad to see such emotional circle jerk confirmation bias feel good click bait voted to the top of voat. It feels like a knee jerk response to the insanity of black lives matter, and in turn they will point to lazy work like this, discredit all other valid points, etc. etc.

Again, its the lazy headline conclusion from a superficial understanding of stats that irks me.

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[–] not_shadowbanned_yet 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

assuming whites committed crime at the same rate as whites, yes. is this assumption somehow flawed? do you think there are no poor whites in new york? are you under the illusion that crime is due to poverty and not race?

race is still a factor in crime even when you control for poverty. poverty doesn't cause crime. crime causes poverty. and certain groups are more genetically predisposed to violent crime.

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[–] Ah_Pook 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

assuming whites committed crime at the same rate as whites, yes.

Which whites? Wall Street whites or East Flatbush whites?

is this assumption somehow flawed?

Yes.

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[–] 0fsgivin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Then why does poor white meth addicted applachia have less crime?

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[–] Inaminit 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Do you think maybe the media might create a poll to see if negros want to relocate back to Africa? They certainly seem to be unhappy here in the US... I bet the change in scenery would do wonders for their morale.

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[–] swfreak 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Didn't former US slaves move to Africa to create their own country?

I think it's called Liberia.

It's a wonderful place.

See what these people can do when they get a country of their own free of the influence of evil straight white men?

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[–] Inaminit 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

From Wikipedia:

The Americo-Liberian settlers did not identify with the indigenous peoples they encountered, especially those in communities of the more isolated "bush." They knew nothing of their cultures, languages or animist religion. Encounters with tribal Africans in the bush often developed as violent confrontations. The colonial settlements were raided by the Kru and Grebo from their inland chiefdoms. Because of feeling set apart and superior by their culture and education to the indigenous peoples, the Americo-Liberians developed as a small elite that held on to political power. It excluded the indigenous tribesmen from birthright citizenship in their own lands until 1904, in a repetition of the United States' treatment of Native Americans.[17] Because of ethnocentrism and the cultural gap, the Americo-Liberians envisioned creating a western-style state to which the tribesmen should assimilate. They encouraged religious organizations to set up missions and schools to educate the indigenous peoples. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia

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[–] iusedtobeonreddit 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

well that was garbage.

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