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[–] Men13 1 points 44 points (+45|-1) ago 

It coincides with the coming of age of kids who grew up with "participation trophies" and "everyone is a winner".

TV used to make fun of the "conservative dad" who was against this whole "everyone wins!" trend. Turns out they were right. Now we're eating shit.

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[–] ShowMeThePunny 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Another way of saying that is the prioritization of "self esteem" over "self worth/confidence".

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[–] Men13 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

YES! That is a GREAT way of saying it! Thank you!

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[–] SteelKidney 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It's worse than that these days. Helicopter parents who make sure that nothing bad happens to their precious, precious little snowflake. I know at least two from my daughter's school who plan on moving with their kid to college and continuing to be active in their kid's life. In college! These poor kids have no opportunity to learn to handle even trivial issues on their own. No reason to learn to think for themselves, to handle conflict on their own. No reason to learn to do anything whatsoever because Mommy (and IME it's always the mom) will just do it.

I even know one who has said she won't let her kids date. Instead, they will somehow find The One when they're in their late 20's and "court" that person until marriage. WTF?

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[–] Men13 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I knew a kid who was in the ARMY, and whose mother called his CO to complain when he was given an "unfair punishment". I'm not even talking prison or anything like that. He mouthed off to one of the cooks and had to do extra cleaning duty in the kitchen for a week.

So his mother called. To complain. Can you imagine that?!

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[–] Salnax 2 points 18 points (+20|-2) ago 

Mandy was a pretty minor character, but if I remember correctly, he had his ass handed to him by Ash and his underdog crab-like ally.

Pokemon, like a lot of dubbed anime, is inherently a bit weird because it comes from the other side of the world, gets translated into English, has the story modified somewhat to not offend too many parents, and is then reworked into a comprehensive story. Some shows show this more than others.

Pokemon is a series about a boy and his super powered animal buddies winning with the dual powers of friendship and energy-based attacks. Make of that what you will.

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[–] Iforgotmy_other_acct 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Even the old cartoons that didn't teach that garbage have been nerfed:

X-Men, Amazing Spiderman, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles... If you're looking for cartoons for your boys, the New Adventures of Johnny Quest might be the way to go, if you can find it.

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[–] intrepiddemise 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

pokemon is the most girlish faggiest shit I've ever seen

Even more than My Little Pony? Because grown men watch that show now. What the hell is going on?

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[–] Nutt007 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I grew up watching Pokémon, I turned out pretty okay. To each his own tho.

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[–] GoofyGrape 2 points 24 points (+26|-2) ago 

I would add to this the sitcom dad syndrome. They have also grown up watching shows where Dad is often times a buffoon but Mom almost never is.

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[–] OneTrueCube 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

That's true for every sitcom. The idiot dad and voice of reason mom.

There are a few that turn this trope on its head though. Even though Stan from American Dad is often portrayed as a complete idiot, Francine is just as much of an idiot most of the time.

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[–] l23r 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Wasn't that the case with "older" sitcoms as well though? Even though Roseanne and Al Bundys wife weren't the sharpest crayons in the box, they were Mensa material compared to their husbands.

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[–] GoofyGrape 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think your larger point is correct. In fairness, I was somewhat including the two shows you referenced as the leading edge of this trope. To clarify my point, I think the concept of the stupid dad has been exaggerated more in shows the last 20 years, especially with the increase in cartoon shows, which allows fictional dads access to greater levels of incompetence. In addition, there aren't the counterbalance sitcoms that would show dads in a positive light. It's not just that people growing up are seeing dads in a negative light, it's that they are only seeing dads in a negative light, especially compared to mom. This just doesn't reflect reality. In reality, there are plenty of competent dads who know how to get shit done.

Regarding your specific examples, I thought Al Bundy of Married with Children was more a lout, not necessarily grossly incompetent. Roseanne was shown as smarter than her husband, but it was her show after all, and again her husband was not necessarily grossly incompetent. I don't remember the sitcom dad trope from the Cosby Show or Family Ties or other shows from the 80's / early 90's. Going back even further, you can find examples of dads having flaws (Archie Bunker, I Dream of Jeanie, The Dick van Dyke Show), but dads did not have perpetually dangerous levels of stupidity nor were the wives perpetually competent.

At some point in the early 90s I stopped watching sitcoms altogether (too vapid). There is a good article in The Onion about people asking for reparations from watching Sitcoms; like many Onion articles, it hits close to home for me.

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[–] Vvswiftvv17 [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Holy shit, now that I think about it, Danny Tanner was practically a Lesbian.

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[–] foobar 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

I'm a bit older, so Street Fighter 2 taught my children that yelling "sonic boom" at people wins fights. Curse you evil video games.

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[–] Morbo 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

This explains so much on how the SJW mind works:

Raper no raping! Raper no raping! Raper no raping!

Aww man!

(also works with "Spreader no spreading!")

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[–] William_Wallace 4 points 8 points (+12|-4) ago  (edited ago)

I do not permit my child to watch that show.

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[–] William_Wallace 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Thanks

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[–] jeegte12 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

what a weird sentence

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[–] safespacer 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Shhh, he is scottish.

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[–] CatoSierra 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

¿Pero por qué otra manera aprenderá tu niño diez palabras de español y nunca de la gramática en seis años? Una idioma que probablemente tuviere que aprender en la escuela secundaria a pesar de todo.

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[–] Ina_Pickle 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I have known for some time now that Dora the Explorer is the work of the devil.

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[–] oddlydrawn 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago  (edited ago)

It probably didn't help that the Obamas had an anti-bullying campaign (whitehouse.gov 2011.)

edit: og isn't gov

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