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[–] turd_miner91 2 points 46 points (+48|-2) ago 

Right or wrong, I literally do the exact opposite.

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[–] farmer- 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

Never met a reasonable Muslim?

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[–] Sciency 0 points 49 points (+49|-0) ago 

I certainly have, but they tend to be heavily westernized culturally speaking.

I really think Islamic extremism is a symptom of mental illness brought on by a lifetime of living alongside perpetual war and extreme imorality. People always take on atributes of their environment, it's human nature.

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[–] BiscuitFever 7 points 17 points (+24|-7) ago 

The only reasonable ones aren't Muslim anymore.

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[–] ToFat2Fish 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I have. Ive been working with him for 4 years now he's a stand-up guy.

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[–] Spacehuman 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

They may seem friendly and reasonable on the surface until you actually start to dig into their true beliefs which are incompatible with western civilization.

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[–] Bfwilley 6 points 17 points (+23|-6) ago 

Dam it, your not supposed to notice things like that and your just going to trigger and micro aggress the SJW's, they get cranky with out their naps and fantasies.

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[–] jackofdiamonds 21 points 12 points (+33|-21) ago 

This is a strawman. No one on the left "judges every gun owner on the actions of a few lunatics." Even the most vociferous gun control advocates in the nation still acknowledge that the majority of gun owners are honest, decent, safe people. They simply take the stance that the harm caused by readily available guns, especially assault rifles, outweighs whatever value there is in the freedom of allowing people to easily get them without so much as a background check.

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[–] Sops 1 points 25 points (+26|-1) ago  (edited ago)

It is a good thing then that assault rifles (select fire/automatic) are not readily available in the United States and that they do require background checks. What you are thinking of are assault weapons which is an invented term with no actual meaning and describes certain firearms that are no more or less lethal then other firearms that do not fit the criteria. You are letting people take advantage of the fact that you are ill informed on the topic so they can push an agenda.

Further, fewer people are killed every year with rifles of any type then there are people killed with knifes, blunt objects or bare hands. So why are they trying so hard to regulate rifles when twice as many people are being killed by unarmed attackers?

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[–] cynoclast 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You're totally right: http://www.assaultweapon.info/

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[–] wwwhistler 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

and in the UK they are trying to get rid of "all the sharp things" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

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[–] OneTrueCube 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Not trying to call you out, but I'm on mobile and don't have a good opportunity to look up those figures.

Do you have a source on the bit about more non-gun deaths than gun related?

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[–] Ofmuffy 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

The fallacy is in the complete oversimplification of both ideas here. Kind of like measuring the light of the moon with the flame of a candle without remembering to consider the placement of the candle itself

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[–] g-j-a 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

...especially assault rifles

That is how I know you don't know what the fuck you and the rest of the gunphobics are talking about.

If you really want be get scared focus more on things like my main rifle which is a single fire bolt action but in trained hands can remove threats at more than 600 yards.

And for the record nobody gets any gun without a NICS check. FACT.

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[–] jackofdiamonds 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

The largest concern is not range, but magazine size. We do, in fact, know what we are talking about. There have been very few civilian sniper murders in the United States. We had a few of them around the DC beltway about a decade ago, and one incident on a college campus in the 70s, and that's it. Mass shootings from close up are a much larger problem.

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[–] Rellik88 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago  (edited ago)

This is a strawman. No one on the left "judges every gun owner on the actions of a few lunatics."

You sure? If you think that your blind.

Even the most vociferous gun control advocates in the nation still acknowledge that the majority of gun owners are honest, decent, safe people.

http://cdn.buzzpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/image54.jpg

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Not to mention Moms Demand, Every Town and other ban and block descent even worse then Reddit.

They simply take the stance that the harm caused by readily available guns, especially assault rifles,

You do know real assault rifles cost 10k+ and neeed ATF tax stamps right? Semi-auto guns even AR15 are not very powerful compared to semiauto hunting rifles in 308 30.06 etc. Or do you just hate AR15 because they are black?

outweighs whatever value there is in the freedom of allowing people to easily get them without so much as a background check.

My rights trump you feelz. Also Every gun dealer runs a BG check per Federal Law. The only time you wont is if you buy from a private party. IE Selling a gun to my friend.

Took me 2 mins to find evidence you are wrong. It's called Google Im sure you heard of it. Stop listing to Shannon Watts k?

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[–] Antichamp 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

If this was on reddit, triggered people would be calling you fucking racist. Saying guns are more deadly than oh ya know pills.

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[–] Sanji 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Reddit users love their pills.

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[–] TruthNotFeelings 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Of course they do. Over half of them have depression, bipolar disorder, crippling anxiety... You name it, they have it!

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[–] l-emmerdeur 5 points 7 points (+12|-5) ago 

...I've never heard a single rational person claim that all gun owners are similar or even like-minded to people who commit atrocities.

However a host of xenophobes judge entire races or creeds based on the actions of a few individuals.

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[–] the_devils_lettuce 9 points -3 points (+6|-9) ago 

"Don't judge all those good Nazis just because there were a few bad ones. Oh, wait..."

The truth is the Islam is a completely fucked up, stone age ideology that doesn't belong in the modern world.

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[–] Donbuster 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

That is actually perfectly valid; A good portion of the German citizenry joined the party fearing retaliation for NOT joining the party by the government. It does not make average Joe blow German citizen from the time a bad person, especially considering the fact that the extent of the holocaust was not well known until well after the fall of the Third Reich. Hell, Karl Plagge was a mid ranking member of the Nazi party who used his position to save hundreds of Jews from the SS.

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[–] NedTaggart 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

That is a good, and valid point, however It doesn't have to make sense when you consider the motivation of both gun control advocate and radical Islam is to exert control and dictate behavior.

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[–] Mead 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I worked with a Kurdish gentleman at my previous job that was pretty awesome. He originally started working with the DoD as a translator after the invasion of Iraq. Later he was able to immigrate to the USA with his family, and earned his citizenship. He was far from a devout Muslim, but did fast during Ramadan. He was an all around nice guy and a great co-worker. He returned to working for the DoD sometime time ago, and I lost contact with him. I just hope that he is healthy and safe.

I don't think the issue is so much with "Muslims" but specific versions of the religion.

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[–] Devildetails 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You are not supposed to do either. Absolutes are the talk of the sith.

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