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[–] MaxVieuxlieu 1 point 11 points 12 points (+12|-1) ago
Those are state charges, President only has power to pardon for federal crimes.
[–] Mghorning 4 points 1 point 5 points (+5|-4) ago
Acces and possession of firearms is a constitunally protected right and has been supported by numerous supreme court decisions, asshole.
[–] MaxVieuxlieu 1 point 12 points 13 points (+13|-1) ago
Thank you for that well-thought out contribution to the discussion. Not gonna do anything to change the fact that Trump can't pardon someone for state-level charges. The supreme court could certainly vacate the conviction based on second-amendment freedom to travel arguments, but Trump won't be able to pardon them regardless of what profanities you use.
[–] SkinnyMagna 3 points 1 point 4 points (+4|-3) ago
Then bring charges against state agents for enforcing color of law.
[–] MaxVieuxlieu 2 points 3 points 5 points (+5|-2) ago
That's a bunch of words that together don't make any sense.
[–] Vic_V 5 points -4 points 1 point (+1|-5) ago
so if my state legalizes slavery or criminalizes speech its ok because its state powers? idiot
[–] o0shad0o 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
As @MinorLeakage mentioned, it's not okay. And Trump couldn't pardon for that, either. It'd have to be appealed through the court system, despite being clearly unconstitutional.
[–] MinorLeakage 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
No it isn't okay, but it's also not related to any pardons from the President. You're conflating two unrelated things. The Constitution is the document that both doesn't allow your State to pass those laws, and wouldn't allow the President to pardon you if they did. What mechanism is there for forcing a State to actually NOT violate the Constitution? Well, that's a different question.
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardon-information-and-instructions
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