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[–] Titus-of-Voat 1 points 43 points (+44|-1) ago 

Obesity is also considered a disease. Neither should get a pass. Both are results of no self control.

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[–] WeekendBaker 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

I wish I could split hairs. Alcoholism is a disease, as in, an overwhelming urge to drink. Like Aspergers or being colorblind. But being an alcoholic, is a result of the disease. You can have alcoholism (urge) and restraint, and not be an alcoholic (result).

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[–] bikergang_accountant 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

But you could say the same for obesity to a larger degree. If someone converts sugars into fats more readily then their blood sugar is going to drop fewer hours after a meal and low blood sugar is exactly how someone tells that they are hungery.

It still doesn't matter though. They can see themselves on a dead end trail and do nothing about it, and only need to omit action to solve the problem. (The other explaination which I know you guys are going to bring up is psycholoical. Fluffy mind, fluffy body. Yes that exists and accounts for some percentage but you can see how a physiological explaination for alchololism is pretty lame even in comparison to fats' excuses. It's like 10x more lame.)

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[–] Al_Rubyx 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

There are people that have urges to fuck children (pedophile, urge, disease) that don't because they know it's fucked up, and don't become child rapists (result). Kinda the same thing.

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[–] MarcusA 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Neither are diseases. Both are character flaws to be worked out like every other imperfection this is dealt to every life.

Deal with your shit and get on with it....

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[–] 1moar 7 points 21 points (+28|-7) ago  (edited ago)

Alkie here, mostly functional and successful.

We drink to not choke out the asshats we see everyday. There's a line.

Fuck anyone who can't handle a drink or two. Like people that don't fucking swear, I don't trust them.

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[–] SurfinMindWaves [S] 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago 

I agree, fuck people who don't swear! And a drink or two obviously isn't the issue. Had an experience recently of trying to wrestle a bottle out of someone's hand while they cried about how they NEEDED a drink. If you wrestle a donut out of a fat person's hand at least they don't have seizures. Obviously when you are having shakes and heart palpitations and sweats and muscle cramps and whatever else they do need a drink because going without one is horribly painful. After this I started noticing how much alcohol usage is such an accepted social activity, movies and commercials and tv shows often have people drinking alcohol.

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[–] Fambida 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Never try to take the booze from an alcoholic. The withdrawal can be deadly. Just call 'em an ambulance and watch 'em not be able to afford booze due to the medical bills.

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[–] GoatyMcGoatface 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Or the people that can't handle you having a drink or two. "Please don't, my dad was a drunk piece of shit rapist so that means you are too if you drink in front of me"

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[–] MirrorMan 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

It's not fucking healthy so I'm not putting it in my body. If we ever have a nuclear holocaust toss me a beer.

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[–] brucethemoose 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

But do you ever boast about it in public? How many people know?

Fat people often don't care, as calling them out on it is rude. Smokers can feel no shame and will openly talk about it. But every alcoholic I know is ashamed about it to some extent, if I ever even get a chance to talk about it.

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[–] jerry 4 points 19 points (+23|-4) ago 

Alcoholics are the fucking goddamned worst. And they are sad because someone they cared about or their direct blood family was Alcoholic and it rubbed off on them. How bout put down the fucking bottle when you are falling down in the fucking street like a fool!! I have dranken a bit but I don't drink for fun. I'd rather smoke a joint. Weed is cheaper than bullshit liquid poison

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[–] mightnotbearobot 3 points 12 points (+15|-3) ago 

I have dranken a bit

I can tell.

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[–] jerry 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

If thats the only response you can formulate then i must be on to something

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[–] hairybawbag 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I saw the funny side of this. Maybe I should get back on the booze.

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[–] Reggie000 9 points -2 points (+7|-9) ago 

Comments like yours piss me off. Why are you trying to trivialize @jerry and the valid point he raises?

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[–] GreatestOfAllTime 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Hambeasts are offensive to look at and smokerfags smell offensive and usually litter. I don't give a shit what drunks do as long as they are not driving.

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[–] SurfinMindWaves [S] 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

I see so many complaints about how much smokers and fats cost the rest of society, medically etc. Drunks have to be just as much of a drain on society and yet no threads EVER complaining about that. I just think its weird how people support bullying and shitlording of these other groups but not that one.

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[–] Rotteuxx 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Considering all drunk driving related (innocent) deaths, ruined marriages & psychologically destroyed kids, I'd be curious to see which bad habit is the costliest for society... with numbers...

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[–] GreatestOfAllTime 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I think we all support shitlording of scummy degenerates but alcys are less common and noticable. I haven't even considered sharing my exploits of shitlording smokers, I confront them any time I see those filthy cunts litter in my goddamn state.

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[–] unclejimbo 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

You've obviously never lived beside some guy that's on his porch drinking vodka everyday driving golf balls at your shit because he has nothing better to do since his power got cut.

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[–] GreatestOfAllTime 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I can't say that I have.

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[–] MirrorMan 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm only 24, but in my 6 years of living with roommates I can testify that 95% of all bad decisions and problems I have had to deal with stem from one or more people getting drunk. Sure drunks that keep to themselves are fine, but the same can be said for any vice. If you have to live with one it is a different story.

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[–] armday2day 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

But did your roommates simply get drunk, or are they drunks?

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[–] HungryCrow 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I've known a lot of functioning alcoholics that don't fit the picture you painted. They work hard, have good families and don't hurt anyone but themselves. Maybe that's why alcoholisn gets a pass? I'm guessing for every drunk that destroys themselves there's two functioning drunks. I'm not defending alcoholic behavior here, just pointing out there may be a reason it's more socially acceptable.

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[–] SurfinMindWaves [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If they have families I would argue that they are only hurting themselves, but otherwise you are probably right.

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[–] hels 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Some do, some don't and there is plenty of middle room. The same goes for fats and smokers. The number of obese parents equating to obese children is very very high. Smokers children are going to have less healthy lungs and overall greater physical health problems.

The majority of problems of living with an alcoholic are likely mental. It's amazing how many fewer children and wives walk into door handles nowadays.

None of the problems are better than the others. All are negative and likely to persist until the next Revolution.

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[–] brucethemoose 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not sure about the 2:1 thing, but I could say the same about some obese people and smokers I know.

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[–] ditch-digger 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Prohibition tried it. My great great grandad made moonshine, my grandad ran it while he wasn't working the hemp farm.

But, yes I do think there should be a bit more outage about people destroying themselves with alcohol. (And Fuck drunk drivers. I'm not even talking about buzzed drivers that didn't wait long enough, full blown swerving across the road jerks).

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[–] SurfinMindWaves [S] 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

When I was younger I thought Prohibition was the stupidest idea ever. Now that I've experienced what it brings I can understand it more. Think how many poor wives had to put up with drunken abusive husbands back then with no recourse against domestic abuse. Someone told me recently that because people in France are drinking wine most of their lives that they have a much lower incidence of alcoholism. I haven't looked up statistics yet to see if that is true. But as we know, forbidding people certain activities often make them dive in head-first once they have access to it.

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[–] ditch-digger 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Diving in had first is so true. More people died of alcohol poisoning during proposition than before it (wood alcohol was often used and unlike normal alcohol the body cannot really process it well).

http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/563a21d1bd86ef1d5d8bbfbd-538/drinking.png

Funny, we don't drink as much as the French. Really have to look into their alcoholic statistics.

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[–] 9722131? 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Alcoholics​ are degenerates just as much. Don't drink that shit. I wish Trump would be more willing to piss people off on this topic as the leader of America - maybe he could inspire some people to stop being useless drunks.

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[–] ditch-digger 4 points 10 points (+14|-4) ago  (edited ago)

I've met more functional and working drunks than I have degenerates. Try again.

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[–] 9722638? 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

They're barely functioning at best, and are as depressed as any other degenerate. Don't pretend that drunks aren't a subset of degenerates.

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[–] Troll 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Smokers smoke because they're stressed out. When you call them out on it, they just move along because they don't need any more of stress.

When fat people get angry on you calling them out for being hamplanet blobs, they can't do shit about it. I mean, what are they gonna do? Chase you and beat you up? For the most part they can barely walk. You anger them and they fall over and shit themselves.

Alcoholics on other hand can smack your shit. Because they're drunk. They can shoot you too, they have guns and you know how it goes with guns and alcohol. Nobody complains about alcoholics, because nobody wants to get shot over calling out a fucking drunkard.

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[–] Randombrown 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Aha, true, but the drunk is just as likely to kill someone OTHER than you, so....well drat now that I read this back it sounds awful...

Forget it. Don't drink and shoot.

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[–] SurfinMindWaves [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Best suggestion so far!

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